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Wearing a Prussian Front in Plastic
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Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 02:07 PM UTC

Greetings all;
This thread is not meant in anyway to critise the fine 1/32 scale build of Brad Cancian's build covered in a relative thread but to add some historical evidence to the mix , discuss the 1/48 treatment by Eduard and is open for discussion.

The term "Wearing a Prussian Front" is a comment alluding to the fact pilots would rather wear the Prussian awards than those of the minor states in Germany. These were usually Black and white enameling on gold and silver. Jasta Boelcke's markings on their Albatros fighters were a white tail with black trim. I did the machines of Voss & Ltn Frommherz


In my research, if you plan to do the 1/48 Eduard version in the Profipack #8035 kit;

1. From the kit drawings Ltn. Werner Voss’ Albatros D.III seems to be a combination of two machines. There is some good current research that says there were two different machines that were marked similarly. He was assigned his first Albatros D.III from the first production series (D.1910/16 - 2200/16) in the early spring 1917 while serving with Jasta 2 (Boelcke.) The upper surface camouflage was three colour. Cowling and spinner were the factory colour of grey green. The pilot’s step was rounded at the top. The radiator was centered on the upper surface of the top wing. Quite possibly the spinner was black here.

His second machine was from the third production series ( D.750/17 - 799/17.) If this machine was already with him when he transferred to Jasta 5 it had not been given these personal markings yet. There are a series of photos with this machine in a tails up position ( The radiator is seen offset to the right of center and so the plumbing was now not directly centered in front of the pilot.) and Ltn. Voss standing on a ladder painting the white of the Haken Kreuz and heart border on the pilot’s left side. The spinner (and later the wheel covers) on this machine were probably red in colour as this was the Jasta 5 unit marking at the time. The upper surface camouflage was two colour. The cowling ring had five small intake vents behind the propeller. This was typical for aircraft in this series and the reason we know it to be a later machine than the first. The pilot’s step was square. The radiator was offset to the right of center and so the plumbing was now not directly centered in front of the pilot. This later machine may also possibly with him when he transferred to temporary commands of Jasta 5, 14 & 29 during the spring and early summer months of 1917.



Though holder of the “Blue Max” (Orden Pour le Merite) he had overstepped his chain of command at Jasta 2 and written complaints about his commander, Hauptmann Walz to Armee headquarters. This series of transfers were meant to teach the young reserve leutnant what command means and even a hero needs to understand he has his limitations.

Ltn. des. Res. Werner Voss service record;
Arrived from AFP 1 to Jasta 2 (Boelcke) on 25 Nov 1916.
On 7April 1917 he went on leave.
On 5 May 1917 he returned from Leave
On 20 May 1917 he was transferred to Jasta 5 as temporary commander.
On 10 June 1917 he was relieved of command for the new permanent commander.
On 2 July 1917 he was transferred from Jasta 5 to temporary command of Jasta 29.
On 6 July 1917 he was relieved of command and transferred to temporary command of Jasta 14.
On 30 July 1917 he was relieved of command and transferred to command of Jasta 10.
On 23 Sept 1917 he was KIA flying F.I 103/17 with a total of 48 aerial victories.



One may ask why so many identical markings on these two machines? We know from interviews with Voss’ former mechanic Gefr. Timm (done by historian A. Imrie) that Voss thought the “...Haken Kreuz mit laurels scheme was still too plain. So the heart was added...” As of this writing we don’t know for sure but the answer may come from a regimental moto. “How do they fight?...With heart, a victor’s luck and an iron will.” The national insignia of course being the “Iron Cross.” Ltn. Voss’ former cavalry unit was the Westphalian 11th Hussars. Research continues in the arena.



The correct size fin / rudder unbordered / plain black crosses are taken from an Aeromaster sheet on Albatros fighters. Otherwise the kit decals were used. The heart motif for the fuselage spine is too large and should be the same as the ones on the fuselage sides. Even those could have been a little smaller. Having three of these kits I had plenty of decals. This heart on the fuselage spine was meant to draw fire away from the cockpit. The “Haken kreuz mit laurels” is a little wide but can be used.
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Posted: Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 03:31 PM UTC
2. The Albatros D.III from production batch 1910-2200/16 represents the machine flown by Ltn. des Res. Hermann Frommherz while he served with Jasta 2(Boelcke) during April - May 1917. It should have a white tail unit ( Horizontal and vertical with a narrow black band around the fuselage at the juncture of these units.) This was the Jasta’s unit marking during time. In all other respects the profile is generally accurate for Frommherz’s “Blau Maus”.



The black and white sash that wraps around the fuselage needs to be fitted so that the sash slightly overlaps the forward and lower fuselage cross arms. The directions shows a gap between these items and this is not accurate for the profile. The term “Blau Maus” come from a nickname given to Albatros C.III two seaters that in one production batch came from the factory with an overall coat of light blue. The unit markings on these machines were often in black and white. It has been speculated that Ltn. Frommherz may have employed the paint scheme from his early days on the Albatros D.III we see here.



The service record of Ltn.d.R. Hermann Frommherz
Coming from Kampf Geschwader 1 (Bombing unit one) he arrived at Jasta 2 on 22 March, 1917. On 1 May, 1917 he was received minor injuries in a crash but stayed with the Jasta.
On 24 October, 1917 he was transferred to the DFW operated Flieger Schule at Leübeck - Travemunde and served as a flight instructor.
He was transferred from Leübeck - Travemunde on 18 May, 1918 back to Jasta 2 (Boelcke.)
On 29 July, 1918 he was transferred to temporary command Jasta 27 in the same fighter group as Jasta 2 (Boelcke.)
On August 7, 1918 the position was made permanent and he served as the Jasta 27 commander until the end of hostilities.

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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 07:07 AM UTC
Hi Mr. Lawson:

These are beautiful! A friend who is transferring to Edwards AFB would like me to build him the Frommherz plane(Blaue Maus)for his office. Your model here gives a great appearance to shoot for! Is this the 1/32 scale Roden kit, or some other? Is the Frommherz stripe marking available as a decal?

Best regards,

Greg
JackFlash
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Posted: Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 08:12 AM UTC

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Hi Mr. Lawson:
These are beautiful! A friend who is transferring to Edwards AFB would like me to build him the Frommherz plane(Blaue Maus)for his office. Your model here gives a great appearance to shoot for! Is this the 1/32 scale Roden kit, or some other? Is the Frommherz stripe marking available as a decal?

Best regards,
Greg



Greetings Greg,
My sincerest thanks for your kind words. The kit is the 1/48 Eduard version. Kit # 8017 (the earliest issue) had the Frommherz profile. I believe several aftermarket companies have attempted the sash. Eduard's is the one I used. The Albatros D.III from production batch 1910-2200/16 represents the machine flown by Ltn. des Res. Hermann Frommherz while he served with Jasta 2(Boelcke) during April - May 1917. It should have a white tail unit ( Horizontal and vertical with a narrow black band around the fuselage at the juncture of these units.) This was the Jasta’s unit marking during time. In all other respects the profile is generally accurate for Frommherz’s “Blau Maus”. The black and white sash that wraps around the fuselage needs to be fitted so that the sash slightly overlaps the forward and lower fuselage cross arms. The directions shows a gap between these items and this is not accurate for the profile. The term “Blau Maus” come from a nickname given to Albatros C.III two seaters that in one production batch came from the factory with an overall coat of light blue. The unit markings on these machines were often in black and white. It has been speculated that Ltn. Frommherz may have employed the paint scheme from his early days on the Albatros D.III we see here.

The service record of Ltn.d.R. Hermann Frommherz
Coming from Kampf Geschwader 1 (Bombing unit one) he arrived at Jasta 2 on 22 March 1917. On 1 May 1917 he was received minor injuries in a crash but stayed with the Jasta.

He was transferred on 24 October 1917 to the DFW operated Flieger Schule at Leübeck - Travemunde and served as a flight instructor.

Then he was transferred from Leübeck - Travemunde on 18 May 1918 back to Jasta 2 (Boelcke.) Then on 29 July 1918 he was transferred to temporary command Jasta 27 in the same fighter group as Jasta 2 (Boelcke.)

On August 7 1918 the position was made permanent and he served as the Jasta 27 commander until the end of hostilities.

I have build reviews for the basic kit with or without the Eduard aftermarket PE.
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