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Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
1/72 rigging wires ?
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:23 PM UTC
I just pick up some 1/72 kits ( Eduards dual combo Nieuport Ni-23 ) . and would like to know what size of wire or what medium would work the best for this , same as turnbuckles . I use invisible thread for my 1/48 kits but it seems to be to thick for 1/72 kits . Never having any luck with stretched spruce my wires and up looking pregnant . Any suggestions ! thanks .
MerlinV
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:29 PM UTC
Wouldn't even be bothering with Turnbuckles in this scale Terri.
The replication of them in 1/48 is a bit nefarious to be honest. My self, I would see if you can get some fine Eziline from Aeroclub or one of the other stockists. It's elastic, so you never have to worry about sagging. Our good freind Brad Cancian is the expert in its use. CA and accelerator are must haves.

Cheers,

Hugh
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Posted: Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:37 PM UTC

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I just pick up some 1/72 kits ( Eduards dual combo Nieuport Ni-23 ) . and would like to know what size of wire or what medium would work the best for this , same as turnbuckles . I use invisible thread for my 1/48 kits but it seems to be to thick for 1/72 kits . Never having any luck with stretched spruce my wires and up looking pregnant . Any suggestions ! thanks .



Greetings Ms. Terri;
I too use invisible sewing thread (smoke coloured) for 1/48 and its about 6-8mil thick. For 1/72 scale I have seen 1 lbs test fishing line use to good advantage. It comes in clear or black . Just check with the local Outdoor Sports outlet even on line you can pick some up. Model On!
mbittner
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:50 AM UTC
Me, I use .005 stainless steel wire. No need to worry about it ever going slack, only if it comes unglued. If you want, go to the WW1 modeling site to see my work, all rigging still intact.

I tend to glue it with CA for the most strength, but occasionally use white glue as well. The hardest part is getting the exact length for each wire.

FWIW, HTH, YMMV, and good luck.
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:05 AM UTC
I have to go along with the others, I use 0.008-in smoke-colored invisible thread for all WW I rigging on 1/72 aircraft. It makes very good aerial wiring on 1/72 WW II and between the war aircraft. However for the rigging of 1/72 aircraft from the "Golden Age", I tend to use fine stainless steel wire. These aircraft used bladed rods in lieu of wire and if you study your references they appear thicker, because the cord of the blade was.

Our resident mad Pole Wojtek has a very fine article post here on his beautiful Nieuport 17, in which he gives a pictorial tutorial on how to make super rigging eyelets and rigging. https://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/forums/115266&page=1

Caz
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 01:46 AM UTC
Thank-you all for being very helpful for this .Cheers to all
BradCancian
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Posted: Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:30 PM UTC
Hi Terri,

I use fine elastic for my rigging, taken from the core of a product called "knitting in elastic". I paint it black with a felt tip pen and attach with a small blob of superglue. The great thing about this stuff is that it stays taught and never sags, and because it is so easy to use I can rig a whole aircraft prior to attachment of the upper wing. It is a good thickness for 1/72 in my mind - here are some pics of what it looks like on my 1/72 Eduard Albatros D.Va:





Cheers!

BC

thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 02:26 AM UTC
Thank-you as well for the tip Brad . I have never heard of that product before . Most definitely worth checking into . Very lovely Albatros D.Va .
Cazzie
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 04:37 AM UTC
Terri, the material in ladies black nylon stockings is elastic and will do the same as what Brad describes. It is very stretchable material.

Caz
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 01:55 PM UTC
Hi caz , never even occurred to me to use my own stockings ! Thanks that is a very good tip !
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 - 03:29 AM UTC
for 1:72 I use my wifes hair as it is black and quite thick(I joke with her that she has the most beutiful rigging material ...ur uh...I mean HAIR in the world !),But also I use spiderweb material they sell at halloween...its a clear white colour ...very thin ...stretchy ......and colour with a sharpie marker..I use crazy glue to affix
thegirl
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Posted: Monday, May 19, 2008 - 04:12 AM UTC
Always a pleasure to here from you Jim , Hopeful she still has all her hair lol . I was thinking about using my own , but it is very fine and don't think it would be suitable option to use .
Howerver ; I will try it ! Thanks Jim .Cheers a
JimMrr
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Posted: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 02:02 AM UTC
No PROB
Hair is my chosen media for rigging ...but it has its downsides...such as its tendancy to loosen according to temp...have known it to disintegrate when applied to white metal struts affixed with 3 minute epoxy(!!!) I have a tiny crochet hook I made from florist wire and a toothpick I use to negotiate multi strut bays on biplanes nit 1...pearl 2..

thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 - 05:35 PM UTC
With some of the British Aircraft it feels like knitting a sweeter !
JimMrr
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2008 - 11:57 AM UTC
yesterday I picked up a package from White Ensign Models in England, and in it was their nylon rigging material for 1:700 scale ships. Item# z01.....it looks pretty good, costs 2 pounds 13p plus shipping
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 03:22 AM UTC
Jim , let me know how that turns out ! I think I should be able to get that here at the hobby shop .
JimMrr
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2008 - 01:59 PM UTC
Will do.......and I havent forgotten about that hot Friedrich either ...Ill let you know as soon as I do.......I havent much time for modelling this time of year, as the pond business is growing exponentially and im still understaffed!
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