Hi
can anyone please help with refs for French Navy fighter/recce camo schemes and similar aircraft type in Swiss Air Force schemes from late WW2 to post war? (1944 - 1950)
Many thanks in advance
Cheers
Peter
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Camo help please
flitzer
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2008 - 09:40 PM UTC
Stef_6
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Posted: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 - 10:56 PM UTC
Hello,
Quite a vast subject; I can only give you some hints for the french part of your question.
Regarding french navy camo schemes :
We've been using either GB or US planes and the planes displayed the period scheme : for Seafire Mk III, it was the temperate sea scheme (Extradark sea grey/Dak slate grey over Sky), the later use dof Seafire Mk XV was EDG over Sky;
Later came US types, mostly Sea Blue Gloss, with exception of the Dauntless used in late war reduction of german resistance that were in the 3 color schemes. This covers the use of Corsairs, Hellcat, Privateers, Dauntless, Sikorsky Helos of various types, up to P2V Neptunes and Martin Marlins.
During the 'modern' period, with introduction of national built aircarft, such as Alizé, Etendard and so on, we developped our own schemes, but this might exceed the era covered by your question.
The air force from which the recce planes were belonging used Mustang F-6 B and D, and these were NMF with OD antiglare panels.
We had a Recon squadron with P-38 end of WWII (mostly MTO and Germany campaign and these were either NMF of PRU blue (of British origin), with at least one zombie. It is a P-38 nicknamed "Jeanne" and believed to have been flown by St Exupery.
It is allegedly a P-38 in Synthetic Haze paint, with upper surfaces overpainted Olive Drab. This the fantasy theory - it could as well had been OD over Neutral grey ...
Here is what I can tell without more precise question,
HTH
Cheers
Stef (#6)
Quite a vast subject; I can only give you some hints for the french part of your question.
Regarding french navy camo schemes :
We've been using either GB or US planes and the planes displayed the period scheme : for Seafire Mk III, it was the temperate sea scheme (Extradark sea grey/Dak slate grey over Sky), the later use dof Seafire Mk XV was EDG over Sky;
Later came US types, mostly Sea Blue Gloss, with exception of the Dauntless used in late war reduction of german resistance that were in the 3 color schemes. This covers the use of Corsairs, Hellcat, Privateers, Dauntless, Sikorsky Helos of various types, up to P2V Neptunes and Martin Marlins.
During the 'modern' period, with introduction of national built aircarft, such as Alizé, Etendard and so on, we developped our own schemes, but this might exceed the era covered by your question.
The air force from which the recce planes were belonging used Mustang F-6 B and D, and these were NMF with OD antiglare panels.
We had a Recon squadron with P-38 end of WWII (mostly MTO and Germany campaign and these were either NMF of PRU blue (of British origin), with at least one zombie. It is a P-38 nicknamed "Jeanne" and believed to have been flown by St Exupery.
It is allegedly a P-38 in Synthetic Haze paint, with upper surfaces overpainted Olive Drab. This the fantasy theory - it could as well had been OD over Neutral grey ...
Here is what I can tell without more precise question,
HTH
Cheers
Stef (#6)
flitzer
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Posted: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 12:50 AM UTC
Many thanks Stef
very useful.
But now you mention...
This may well cover what I am looking for.
As part of a set of British WW2 secret project profiles, I will include the Miles M58 dual powwerplant (prop plus jet engine) and am attempting a French version. As the design was of 1944/45 it may well have made its service debut a few years later, so the late 40's early 50's may suit very well.
If you can help further I would appreciate it very much.
Again many thanks Stef.
Cheers
Peter
very useful.
But now you mention...
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During the 'modern' period, with introduction of national built aircarft, such as Alizé, Etendard and so on, we developped our own schemes, but this might exceed the era covered by your question.
This may well cover what I am looking for.
As part of a set of British WW2 secret project profiles, I will include the Miles M58 dual powwerplant (prop plus jet engine) and am attempting a French version. As the design was of 1944/45 it may well have made its service debut a few years later, so the late 40's early 50's may suit very well.
If you can help further I would appreciate it very much.
Again many thanks Stef.
Cheers
Peter