finishing my Sopwith Snipe project, I needed something a little more "out of the box" without so many modifications; ie a simple build. So I closed my eyes and grasped for the first thing on the shelf in the "not as hard as a Blue Max kit" pile and grabbed the Roden SE.5a (Hispano Suiza) in 1/48 scale. This kit has been reveiwed many times and is a very good represenation of the type with lots of detail and optional extras.
I have decided to keep this one relatively simple without too many modifications. That said, I did feel that I needed to add some minor additions. Whilst the Roden kit is very nice, there are some obvious omissions around the engine compartment. Firstly, there is a gap between the supplied engine cylider heads and side cowls which leads to a see through effect straight through the engine compartment - this needs to be blanked off. Also, there is a large access / ventillation hole under the belly of the SE.5 behind the engine. This hole is about 2/3 the size of the cockpit opening, and other than a rear bulkhead, there is no detail supplied forward of said bulkhead. This means that you can look into this hole and see straight through into nothingness. Finally, the ventillation holes on the lower side of the cowl are moulded as long depressions, and should (from what I can see) be open. Sigh, so much for a straight OOB build!
So, I have decided to scratch up a few rough pieces to fill in this large hole. I added some basic engine bearers to both fuselage halves:
I have also roughly scratch built the lower part of what looks vaugely like an inline V engine (noting that only the bottom will really be seen), including some angled pieces to blank off the see though effect uder the cyliner heads.
I will paint the engine a murkey dark metallic colour to hide its simplicity. This should be passable when viewed from below (hopefully without to much scrutiny!), and is at least an improvement over the empty space that would otherwise be there! I also scratch built the lower cowling from sheet styrene with the proper cutouts (anyone know if there were any adjustable flaps on the other sides of these cutouts to reguate engine ventilation?)
BC
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Next on the Bench - 1/48 Roden SE.5a
BradCancian
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:01 PM UTC
MerlinV
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:13 PM UTC
Great Brad.
I look forward to seeing just how much you can restrain your self with this one.
Did you know that Kariya do a Hisso/Wolseley Viper in 1/48? I picked up a couple at Expo last year.
Like what you've done so far though and I reckon that your mock engine will fix things nicely.
Cheers,
Hugh
I look forward to seeing just how much you can restrain your self with this one.
Did you know that Kariya do a Hisso/Wolseley Viper in 1/48? I picked up a couple at Expo last year.
Like what you've done so far though and I reckon that your mock engine will fix things nicely.
Cheers,
Hugh
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 05:55 PM UTC
I will be taking notes on this one for when I do the one sitting in the stash .
Your builds are always a pleasure to watch Brad
Your builds are always a pleasure to watch Brad
Repainted
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Posted: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 11:06 PM UTC
This will be just another BC-standard, that´s my guess. just love the stuff you create Brad.
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Larsa Q
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 12:24 AM UTC
Cool more of Brad's secrets. Model On!
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 12:14 PM UTC
Brad the chin pan is the type seen on the Hisso motors are you doing the geared 200 -220hp Hisso?
JackFlash
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Posted: Monday, January 12, 2009 - 12:23 PM UTC
Quoted Text
". . . I also scratch built the lower cowling from sheet styrene with the proper cutouts (anyone know if there were any adjustable flaps on the other sides of these cutouts to reguate engine ventilation?"
Aeroscale member Steve Hatter came up with this for his research on a 1/32 scale build here at Aeroscale. It does reflect the Hisso type.
BradCancian
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 04:22 PM UTC
Interior now has some paint. I added some lap belts (Eduard), a cocking handle for the vickers, replaced the rudder bar foot straps, and added rigging. Weathing was kept to a minimum as I will be going for a relatively clean build.
BC
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thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 10:42 PM UTC
Coming along very nicely Brad !
JackFlash
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 02:11 PM UTC
Greetings Brad Excellent work as usual. I realyy like the light wood stain you went with. Subtle contrasts. Model On!
BradCancian
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Posted: Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:24 AM UTC
More slow progress. As you can see I added some extra detail where I felt the Roden detail was a little soft.
I have also taken the fun step of hollowing out the pulley inspection windows.
BC
I have also taken the fun step of hollowing out the pulley inspection windows.
BC
thegirl
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Posted: Friday, January 30, 2009 - 12:39 PM UTC
Looking mighty fine so far Brad . Very brave of placing the controlhorns on now . I would have broken them off and the carpet monster getting them in the end .
BradCancian
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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:06 AM UTC
Having just moved house, and finishing the last of my university work for this year, I have managed to get the smell of paint and glue back into my nostrils again. Thought I would pick up this project again and try and finish it off
I finally settled on some markings. I decided to paint her in the markings of 2/Lt. G C Logan of A flight, 2 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps. This aircraft was bought on charge with 2AFC on 5 January 1918 and lost 21 February 1918 when "Lt. Logan in B/619 left Aero. at 11.35 a.m. on Patrol and was last seen going towards the line. Pilot and machine missing. Struck off." The aircraft was downed by anti-aircraft fire, though Logan made a landing, nosed the aircraft over, and was made a POW. Here she is with some paint and decals on (still looking a little shiny from the gloss coat).
Markings are a mixture of paint, roden decals and pegasus serials, which were a PAIN to put on because they were so fragile, plus they are not that crisp (please, please, PLEASE someone do a GOOD set of serial number decals for RFC aircraft.... please!!!)
Next is flat coat, then the top wing can go on.
Feedback always welcomed.
BC
I finally settled on some markings. I decided to paint her in the markings of 2/Lt. G C Logan of A flight, 2 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps. This aircraft was bought on charge with 2AFC on 5 January 1918 and lost 21 February 1918 when "Lt. Logan in B/619 left Aero. at 11.35 a.m. on Patrol and was last seen going towards the line. Pilot and machine missing. Struck off." The aircraft was downed by anti-aircraft fire, though Logan made a landing, nosed the aircraft over, and was made a POW. Here she is with some paint and decals on (still looking a little shiny from the gloss coat).
Markings are a mixture of paint, roden decals and pegasus serials, which were a PAIN to put on because they were so fragile, plus they are not that crisp (please, please, PLEASE someone do a GOOD set of serial number decals for RFC aircraft.... please!!!)
Next is flat coat, then the top wing can go on.
Feedback always welcomed.
BC
NickZour
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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 02:27 AM UTC
Wooooow looks great!!
especialy the cockpit!!!!
Cheers Nick
especialy the cockpit!!!!
Cheers Nick
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 02:41 AM UTC
Brad , great to see you back on with this project
Splendid work us usual .
Cheers mate !
Splendid work us usual .
Cheers mate !
CaptainA
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Posted: Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 06:20 AM UTC
Looks great. Almost finished, we are wondering what may be next.
BradCancian
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:34 AM UTC
Finished (and before anyone asks, yes the upper wing code is painted the correct way up)
All comments and feedback welcome.
BC
All comments and feedback welcome.
BC
JackFlash
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:16 AM UTC
Nicely Done Brad! I loved all of the detail alterations.
thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:32 AM UTC
Very nicely done indeed !
Your attention to the details is top notch Brad . Seeing your work is great encouragement and inspirational to us all !
Cheers
Your attention to the details is top notch Brad . Seeing your work is great encouragement and inspirational to us all !
Cheers
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:37 AM UTC
Great model! I wish I could weather my models half good as you do it.
Kitboy
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 02:33 AM UTC
Stunning result!
Cheers, Nico
Cheers, Nico
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:29 AM UTC
All of the above seconded Brad---but as I mentioned over at aerodrome---your wheels are a bit 'Sopwithy'----either by mistake as the S.E. did'nt use a split axle---or a weakness in the plastic..this is not to be taken as criticism--just pointing out for future builders....
Regards,
Dave.
Regards,
Dave.