I can remember a long time ago building an ME-109. On a recent trip to my favorite hobby shop I looked for this plane. No ME-109's - now it seems this designation is gone and this plane is identified as a Bf-109. Why? When did this happen? Have I been building armor too long?
Thanks.
Hosted by Rowan Baylis
ME-109/Bf-109
GSPatton
California, United States
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 12:56 PM UTC
KiwiDave
Wellington, New Zealand
Joined: January 14, 2003
KitMaker: 248 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: January 14, 2003
KitMaker: 248 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 02:07 PM UTC
The correct terminology is Bf.
Messerchmitt designed aircraft for the company called Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (Bf), - my German is nicht ser gut but I think Bavarian Aircraft Factory would be a close translation.
I too remember the 109 being called Me109 but I think that was the popular press. Certainly all the specialist publications I have from the fifties on refer to the aircraft by its correct title.
Regards Dave
Long haired yobs fighting and marching. Should put them in the army, that would soon stop them fighting and marching,
Messerchmitt designed aircraft for the company called Bayerische Flugzeugwerke (Bf), - my German is nicht ser gut but I think Bavarian Aircraft Factory would be a close translation.
I too remember the 109 being called Me109 but I think that was the popular press. Certainly all the specialist publications I have from the fifties on refer to the aircraft by its correct title.
Regards Dave
Long haired yobs fighting and marching. Should put them in the army, that would soon stop them fighting and marching,
SS-74
Vatican City
Joined: May 13, 2002
KitMaker: 3,271 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: May 13, 2002
KitMaker: 3,271 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 04:53 PM UTC
Dave, thanks for the clear explain, I too often wonder this question.
I have one further question, but for ME262, how come it's always refer to ME262 rather than BF262, is this because ME262 was not designed for the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke ?
I have one further question, but for ME262, how come it's always refer to ME262 rather than BF262, is this because ME262 was not designed for the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke ?
modelcitizen62
Virginia, United States
Joined: May 13, 2002
KitMaker: 326 posts
AeroScale: 273 posts
Joined: May 13, 2002
KitMaker: 326 posts
AeroScale: 273 posts
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 05:05 PM UTC
OOOOH OOOHH PICK ME PICK ME
Actually, the 262 was designed after Bayerische Flugzeugwerke well and truly became Messerschmitt AG amd Dr. Messerschmitt was given recognition for his influence on the designs coming from his own design bureau, thus the Me designation.
It's kind of like when you see the Focke-Wulf Ta 152 or Ta 183 - both designated in recognition of designer Kurt Tank.
Actually, the 262 was designed after Bayerische Flugzeugwerke well and truly became Messerschmitt AG amd Dr. Messerschmitt was given recognition for his influence on the designs coming from his own design bureau, thus the Me designation.
It's kind of like when you see the Focke-Wulf Ta 152 or Ta 183 - both designated in recognition of designer Kurt Tank.
penpen
Hauts-de-Seine, France
Joined: April 11, 2002
KitMaker: 1,757 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: April 11, 2002
KitMaker: 1,757 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 - 11:18 PM UTC
i think that I even read somewhre that early 109s were Bf109, and late 109s were Me109 !!!!!!!!!! #:-)
BoarHead
United States
Joined: June 13, 2003
KitMaker: 121 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: June 13, 2003
KitMaker: 121 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:18 AM UTC
That's why you usually say Messerschmitt Bf109...
GSPatton
California, United States
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Joined: September 04, 2002
KitMaker: 1,411 posts
AeroScale: 0 posts
Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 03:56 AM UTC
Thank you one and all for clearing this up for me.
Regards,
GSP
Regards,
GSP