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Tamyia FW190A8-R2 WIP
hkopper
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 12:16 PM UTC
Since I had to lay to rest my Eduard fw190A8, I decided to take a quicker and easier route with Tamiya's kit. I was quite surprised with the ease of the build, the level of detail and how well everything fit together (I'm almost done and I've had no need for any fillers)!! Everything is out of box with the exception of Eduard's interior detail set.
The build is practically done with the exception of the small parts that I'll attach in the end. Now it's time to mask and paint. Thanks for watching.
Posted: Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 09:14 PM UTC
Hello Hermann
It is looking very nice ... and I think it is a much more rewarding project when entering aircraft modelling than the Eduard kit. Be sure to get some aftermarket wheels as the kit wheels are much too small !!!!
looking forward to your progress!
all the best
Steffen
It is looking very nice ... and I think it is a much more rewarding project when entering aircraft modelling than the Eduard kit. Be sure to get some aftermarket wheels as the kit wheels are much too small !!!!
looking forward to your progress!
all the best
Steffen
hkopper
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 01:32 AM UTC
Just started the painting phase of the build. Below are some pix of my progress:
Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for watching!!
hkopper
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 03:46 AM UTC
Added camo to the upper half of the fuselage. Next step will be my first attempt at mottle. Any pointers on the application of mottle will be greatly appreciated, also let me know if I'm heading in the right direction?
Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 03:29 AM UTC
Looks good, Hermann. The camouflage looks good and the colours are much better than what I normally end up with.
To decide on the mottling you should have a look at a specific aircraft from a picture. Some of the FW 190s had almost no mottling while others had heavy mottling almost completely covering the sides of the fuselage.
Below are some pictures for inspiration.
To decide on the mottling you should have a look at a specific aircraft from a picture. Some of the FW 190s had almost no mottling while others had heavy mottling almost completely covering the sides of the fuselage.
Below are some pictures for inspiration.
hkopper
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 04:48 AM UTC
Thanks for the reference photos ..they will definitely come in handy!!!
_H_Dori
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 12:09 AM UTC
Your Wulf is coming on great mate. Although I am by no means an experten in mottle I can tell you the way I do it.
First I thin the paint heavily, around 5-10% actual colour. I then do a few tests on white paper until I can get the right pressure on the the compressor. Then start to build up the mottle lightly (it will take a few passes before you start to see the paint anyway as it's so thin) the beauty is that you can make areas more dense if you want to by going over the areas you want later on. When your happy with your work and the paints dry I normally mix up another heavily thinned coat of the base colour, say RLM76 and lightly dust over the mottled area. I find this just gives the paint a nice feathered look
Hope that can help you.
Howard
First I thin the paint heavily, around 5-10% actual colour. I then do a few tests on white paper until I can get the right pressure on the the compressor. Then start to build up the mottle lightly (it will take a few passes before you start to see the paint anyway as it's so thin) the beauty is that you can make areas more dense if you want to by going over the areas you want later on. When your happy with your work and the paints dry I normally mix up another heavily thinned coat of the base colour, say RLM76 and lightly dust over the mottled area. I find this just gives the paint a nice feathered look
Hope that can help you.
Howard
hkopper
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 03:29 PM UTC
After receiving some good tips, I decided to attempt my mottle. Below are some pics of my attempt. Any criticism or pointers will be greatly appreciated (did I add too much mottle, not enough, ..)
Thanks for watching!!
Thanks for watching!!
Red4
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 07:06 PM UTC
You're doing fine. Keep at it. "Q"
Yeti123
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Posted: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 11:49 PM UTC
I think you have done a great job. It's going to be a great looking 190
Taylor
Taylor
hkopper
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 01:54 AM UTC
Yesterday I decided to make the mottle a bit more subtle to blend a bit more with the rlm 76. I also decided to add the yellow to the bottom of the nose, choosing option C of the coloring scheme in the manual (IV/JG3, Hauptmann Wilhelm Moritz, 1944)
thegirl
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 02:32 AM UTC
Nice job on the mottling and the preshading looks great as well .
hkopper
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 10:00 AM UTC
Thanks Terri!!
Almost done with the build ..I finally can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just have to assemble the landing gear, weather, apply decals and attach all of the small pieces. Thanks to all for the valuable advice and words of encouragement!!
Almost done with the build ..I finally can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I just have to assemble the landing gear, weather, apply decals and attach all of the small pieces. Thanks to all for the valuable advice and words of encouragement!!
PanosT
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 10:11 AM UTC
Great job so far hkopper! The mottling looks way much better now! After the weathering i think you gonna have an outstanding Woolf!
Congrats!
Panos
Congrats!
Panos
hkopper
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 07:51 AM UTC
Another photo update on my progfess
Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 08:42 PM UTC
Nice progress, Hermann. The mottling came out excellent as already pointed out by others.
Looking forward to see the final result.
Looking forward to see the final result.
hkopper
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 01:02 AM UTC
Just finished adding the decals (probably one of my least favorite part of the build). I'll next add another layer of Future to seal and add my washes.
hkopper
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 02:53 AM UTC
Which medium and colors should I use to recreate the engine's exhaust stains (I recall that this bird was quite a dirty one). The same goes for the stains from the cannon and opennings where the spent rounds were ejected. Thanks in advance
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 05:46 AM UTC
Very nice so far Hermann .
For the stainning , I use pastels for this task . I gride up some black , brown and dark brown
with fine sand paper and ( smoke grey for the make-up drawer ) . A base coat of black goes on first followed by brown . Next the dark brown with a light dusting of smoke grey .
For the gun powder I use the smoke grey with a light dusting of the dark brown . You can change this and play with it until you are happy with the finish . If you don't like it can always wash it off and start over again . If you do decide to go this way spray dull coat first . The pastels will stick better to the surface . The Tamiya weathering pastels work alright
For paint I would use Tamiya smoke with over tones of a dark brown . I really never tried this with paint before so your guess is good as my . Other guys will have their own methods.
For the stainning , I use pastels for this task . I gride up some black , brown and dark brown
with fine sand paper and ( smoke grey for the make-up drawer ) . A base coat of black goes on first followed by brown . Next the dark brown with a light dusting of smoke grey .
For the gun powder I use the smoke grey with a light dusting of the dark brown . You can change this and play with it until you are happy with the finish . If you don't like it can always wash it off and start over again . If you do decide to go this way spray dull coat first . The pastels will stick better to the surface . The Tamiya weathering pastels work alright
For paint I would use Tamiya smoke with over tones of a dark brown . I really never tried this with paint before so your guess is good as my . Other guys will have their own methods.
hkopper
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 01:51 PM UTC
How do you get the pastels to stick to the model ..i'm affraid that the pastels will fall off with the handling of the build. Will a coat of matt varnish seal the pastels after they have been applied or will it make a mess?
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 06:13 PM UTC
When you spray the dullcoat first this gives the pastels something to stick to and will work it's way in some what . You can over spray with dullcoat afterwards , but it will darken it slightly but not to much . You can lighten the pastels with a little white pastel . just grind it the same way and mix it into the colour you are using . You really don't have to add the dullcoat afterwards , just be careful on how you handle it .
FalkeEins
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Which medium and colors should I use to recreate the engine's exhaust stains (I recall that this bird was quite a dirty one). The same goes for the stains from the cannon and opennings where the spent rounds were ejected. Thanks in advance
nice looking Würger Hermann..personally I wouldn't overdo the staining...ground crews had specific instructions to scrub engine stains off after every 12 hrs or so of flight time..
hkopper
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Posted: Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 02:03 PM UTC
Terri and Neil ..thanks for your suggestions. I did a light wash to bring out the pannel lines a bit. I'll probably keep the stains to a minimum since I'm quite happy with the finish so far and do not want to over do the weathering (I need to keep reminding myself that I'm building a plane and not armor)!! I'll post more pix in the near future since I'm finding less and less time to dedicate to my hobby ..I have a new born on the way who is about to make her debut in July!!
hkopper
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 01:43 AM UTC
It's a wrap!!
Thanks for watching
Thanks for watching
Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 07:11 AM UTC
Hello hermann
Very nice model!! Hope you got enough motivation to tackle the Eduard kit again!
somehow the c&m looks familiar
;)
all the best
Steffen
Very nice model!! Hope you got enough motivation to tackle the Eduard kit again!
somehow the c&m looks familiar
;)
all the best
Steffen