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Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
I must be 'wing' nuts! LVG questions...
tachikawa
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 11:40 AM UTC
Not new to modeling, but am new to WWI vintage. So I bought a Wingnut Wings LVG C.VI kit. I already have some questions and I hope you all will be patient and kind with me as I learn what this is all about.

Question#1. I have seen some online pictures of the front seat (wooden) of a LVG with small holes all over the seat back, sides and bottom. The kit seat (padded) doesn't show these. Would a wooden seat be appropriate for this version or no?


Glenn
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 08:08 PM UTC
Padding a seat was the normal situation with the LVG.
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 10:54 PM UTC
Glenn,

I have to agree with Stephen, all the pics I have seen have had the sumptious looking padded seat, maybe the one you saw was stripped down to the frame for restoration?
But saying that...who knows for sure if it wasnt field modded for a reason.
tachikawa
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 09:40 AM UTC
Stephen & Keith-
Thanks for your replies! I bet a padded seat was easier on a pilot's body (rear-end).


Glenn
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 12:24 PM UTC
I do have another question! What color should the 'rigging' lines be on this kit. Looking at some online photo's of the Shuttleworth LVG the control lines appear to me to be metal cables, silverish in color. Correct?

Glenn
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 01:47 PM UTC
I would say yes, silvergrey, but I'll most likely use a mid grey myself, I'm not fond of hard metallic looks personally

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tachikawa
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Posted: Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 08:48 AM UTC
So can anyone tell me where the pilot seat belts mount to? Since the seat is mounted over the fuel tank I guess I'd find it hard to believe the seat belts would mount onto it! So did they mount along the inside of the fuselage? Or to another point on the floor? Reason I ask is that the instructions just show them laying on the seat and/or draped over the armrests. They are not shown to be connected to anything, which I find very unlikely. Anyone have a photo?

Glenn
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Posted: Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 02:55 PM UTC
Greetings Glenn;

Usually in German aircraft all seat, lap or shoulder belts were attached to the skeletal frame. There may have been a cable attached to the belt ring leading bacl to an area near the lower congeron . The other end running through a metal loop attached by bolts through plates (washers) through the wood framing through another plate and finally hex nuts with cotter pins.

"Flight" magazine from 1918 -1919 may have more info.They surveyed captured aircraft.

tachikawa
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Posted: Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 03:52 PM UTC
Thanks for the info. I guess I was looking for a way to place them that looks factual and/or real. Appreciate your input!

Glenn
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Posted: Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:05 PM UTC
Glenn,

Here's a picture from "Flight" magazine for the Pfalz D.III seatbelt attachments. Might be similar. I wonder how they are attached in the Shuttlesworth and Memorial Flight's LVG's? Maybe someone out there has some pictures?



Mark
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Posted: Monday, June 29, 2009 - 12:42 PM UTC
Thanks Mark and Stephen! The pictures give some ideas for attachment points! Many Thanks!

Glenn

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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 11:07 AM UTC
Was wondering about this Benz BZ 4, 6-cylinder engine. Wouldn't mind trying to run ignition wire from the plugs....but to where? Looked at a few pictures online but didn't see any with ignition wiring in place. So what's at the other end of the plug wire? Magneto? Anyone have a picture of where it is on the engine? Or is there a place where I could run the wires and let them blend into the engine compartment? Help!

Glenn


P.S.- Well if all else fails look at the kitmakers website. There are some archive pictures at Wingnut Wings website of the engine 'wired up'. Looks like the plugs on the respective sides of the engine work their way to small housings on the respectives sides of the engine near the rearmost cylinder. Is this a distributor cap?
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 02:13 PM UTC

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". . .Well if all else fails look at the kitmakers website. There are some archive pictures at Wingnut Wings website of the engine 'wired up'. Looks like the plugs on the respective sides of the engine work their way to small housings on the respectives sides of the engine near the rearmost cylinder. Is this a distributor cap?"



The distributor caps are on twin magnetos.
tachikawa
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 03:24 PM UTC
Thanks Stephen! I'll dig around some of my auto spare parts and see if I can come up with something that will look magneto-ish!

Glenn
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Posted: Friday, July 03, 2009 - 07:08 PM UTC
Glenn theyre already in the kit

E15 & E16 the wires go either to the terminals (bumps) or in an example I found pics of they connect through the side and there are no external terminals

http://www.mikerlewis.com/lvgcvi/lvgengine.html
tachikawa
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Posted: Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 04:03 PM UTC

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Glenn theyre already in the kit

E15 & E16 the wires go either to the terminals (bumps) or in an example I found pics of they connect through the side and there are no external terminals

www.mikerlewis.com/lvgcvi/lvgengine.




Yeah! Am embarrassed to mention that about 5 minutes after posting my question I noticed them while looking at the instructions!


Glenn
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Posted: Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 07:49 PM UTC
We've all done it.....I'm an expert in the feild of not spotting the obvious Glenn, but I hope the link works there is some wonderful shots of the various components there.

K
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Posted: Friday, July 10, 2009 - 03:41 PM UTC

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Glenn theyre already in the kit

E15 & E16 the wires go either to the terminals (bumps) or in an example I found pics of they connect through the side and there are no external terminals

http://www.mikerlewis.com/lvgcvi/lvgengine.html



Broken link repaired. This is a great site by the way.
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