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Modern (1975-today)
Discuss the modern aircraft age from 1975 thru today.
EF-111A Finished
woltersk
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 09:35 AM UTC
1/72 Monogram kit.

Issues I'm aware of:
1. Canopy! Came out terrible. I really need to find some crystal clear glue and get away from Elmer's.
2. Engine exhausts--need more metallizer or something.
3. My first attempt at 'panel litening'. I'm still not sold on the effect being realist looking, but it does catch the eye.
4. Decal silvering. I glossed it, used Micro Set & Micro Sol, sealed them afterwards, and they stil silvered.

Any other comments or suggestions?









Siderius
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 10:33 AM UTC
I know the feeling about the decals. I gloss my models as well sometimes the decals are just uncooperative and silver. It's frustrating as hell, I know but there sometimes isn't a lot you can do about it. I enjoyed looking at your model, overall a good build. Russell
13M201182
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Michigan, United States
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 10:46 AM UTC
Always great to see a Raven!! Great job, I like the paint job.

Good job, keep it up!
stugiiif
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 01:11 PM UTC
Silvering is light refracting under the clear film of the decal., Usually caused by a rough finish finish under the decal. I do 3 steps for a gloss coat, first is a mist where just a little bit of the clear coat hits the surface, model gets a tacky feel to the surface and still looks flat, Nevt i move a little closer and open the needle about half way. and work down from top of the area, when wet this will look like a smooth finish, but still kinda rough when dry when this is dry to the touch it'll look like shiney and can be polished to full smooth surface using Novus sanding creams, but still not quite right for decals, the final pass will be a simple "wet" coat of the clear, this will look smooth when dry and all the "fisheyes and the orange peel" texture will disappear. The final step is very important when using acrylic and enamel clear coats. As each layer builds up they fill in the previous layer, to where the finish will build in sheen with each application. Laquers are a little special, the few coats prime the paint and plastic underneath, and the "heat" from the Laquer is forming a a single layer of film over the kit. with each application of laquer the clear coat will bond heat and bond to the previous layers forming one layer, nad can be polished to remove the any "orange peel." Also, if using a laquer gloss coat any bare plastic will need to be masked, the laquer will eat the plastic if it's not protected. HTH, I know it was kinda long, but sometimes it's a good thing to know how the different stuff works.
stugiiif
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 01:12 PM UTC
BTW nice Raven, don't see very many modern subjects around here, the string bag guys have kinda taken over.
chris1
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Posted: Sunday, June 14, 2009 - 05:01 PM UTC
Hi there Keith,
A great build the F111 is one beast of an aircraft.
re your comments on panel lightning I like it great job.

Chris
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 02:30 AM UTC
Thanks Guys,
I worked Fs and EFs back in '85 - '89 at Mt Home. An amazing airplane.

The panel lines were fun to do. As was a darker color around the radome and vert leading edge antenna. Now I'm gonna experiment with pre-shading panel lines.

Steve--yeah, I usually just do one coat of clear, use the setting solutions, cover it again with clear, and then a coat of flat--and I usually don't have problems. Must have been the old Monogram decals with their funky white paste when disolved in water.

: ) I'm a bit of a 'string bagger' myself. My last two builds were a Dr1 and an Albatross.

Keith
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 04:23 AM UTC

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the string bag guys have kinda taken over.

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In small steps Steve , in small steps !!!
mvfrog
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC

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Always great to see a Raven!!



These things were also called "Aardvarks" weren't they? Good build.

Matt
Czarny
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 09:41 AM UTC
It is a very good build!

Raven is one of my most liked aircrafts.

What about decals. Try to spray a coat of gloss clear laquer and use something like Mr Hobby Mr Mark Setter, after all cower it with additional one or two layers of clear and then start shading and weathering. I'm using this technique and I'm happy with final results.
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woltersk
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 10:33 AM UTC

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the string bag guys have kinda taken over.




In small steps Steve , in small steps !!! [/quote]

Ooo...sexist faux pas....those string bag guys AND GALS are taking over....
woltersk
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Posted: Monday, June 15, 2009 - 10:34 AM UTC

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Always great to see a Raven!!



These things were also called "Aardvarks" weren't they? Good build.

Matt



Sort of. Aardvarks were the F-111As and FB-111s.

And thanks for the compliment.
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