This is my entry in the Stripes in the Sky Campaign .
The markings are of Hans Bethge , CO of Jasta 30 , March 1918 .
Eduards kit # 8045 was used with the pe parts coming from the Limited Edition # 1116 ?
Details added , control lines in cockpit , fuel line and rad pipes . Valve springs added . Prop shaved down for more scale appearance . Spark wires added as well . Twist hoop - Q-tip method + pe parts for the rigging . Tail section self masked and free hand the black out line . Bungee cord shocks added to the undercarriage . The lozenge decals are from the kit , colours are off , but they do suit the build . However ; I wished I used another source . It took 3 weeks of applying super sol every day and sliciing out the wrinkles which there is still some left . They would not comfrom to the curves at all ! Veeeeeeery thick decals !!!
The orange diamounds were a nightmare . In the last pic you can see the results . The decal would not come off the backing at all . Even soaked if for ten minutes and nothing . I haven't tried the other one yet . So if any one out there knows why this happened , please share ! I would really like to add them to this build .
Any way here are the pic's
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Stripe Pfalz D.IIIa 1:48
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 03:43 PM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 04:01 PM UTC
Clean build for the entry. Youn know my feeling about the Eduard lozenge decals.
The problem wioth your decals maybe that the glue laid down on the paper originally was too dense.
The diamonds may need some coaxing it seems. First scrap the back of the paper carrier with a sharp Xacto knife. The aim here is to open up the area under the decal for saturation. Then try hot water like from a tea pot. Then use a sharp Xacto knife to pick at the edge or puncture some holes in any bubble under the decal.
The problem wioth your decals maybe that the glue laid down on the paper originally was too dense.
The diamonds may need some coaxing it seems. First scrap the back of the paper carrier with a sharp Xacto knife. The aim here is to open up the area under the decal for saturation. Then try hot water like from a tea pot. Then use a sharp Xacto knife to pick at the edge or puncture some holes in any bubble under the decal.
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Posted: Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 10:09 PM UTC
Nice one Terri.
Nice sceme, nice finish and really nice rigging!
Cheers,
Hugh
Nice sceme, nice finish and really nice rigging!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 02:57 AM UTC
Thank you Stephen and Hugh !
Yes i know it all to well . I was going to use Microsculpt decals , but there was something about the colour which complelled me to use them .
Thank you for the tip on the decal . I will give this try and see what happens ( fingers crossed ) .
Yes i know it all to well . I was going to use Microsculpt decals , but there was something about the colour which complelled me to use them .
Thank you for the tip on the decal . I will give this try and see what happens ( fingers crossed ) .
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 08:46 AM UTC
Terri, You have done another masterful build.
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:25 AM UTC
what did you use for turnbuckles on the rigging? pic is a bit fuzzy, as you may recall a very long time ago I started a Pfalz and there it still sits on my workbench.I ordered photoetch turnbuckles from parts of poland, cannot figure out how to secure turnbuckle to wing
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 09:44 AM UTC
Thanks Carl !
Dave I made the turnbuckles myself using a twist wire hoop and Q-tip method . I did a small tutorial in the dual pfalz build . With pictures !
I don't mind the pe turnbuckles for somethings but this q-tip method beats them all .
I figured if I stayed out of focus the mistakes wouldn't show so much ! I have my good days with the camera though !
Dave I made the turnbuckles myself using a twist wire hoop and Q-tip method . I did a small tutorial in the dual pfalz build . With pictures !
I don't mind the pe turnbuckles for somethings but this q-tip method beats them all .
I figured if I stayed out of focus the mistakes wouldn't show so much ! I have my good days with the camera though !
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:22 AM UTC
I have a download from JACKFLASH that I purchased awhile back but I need more detailed help since I am a beginner.I like the hoop method you have used, would it be reasonably historically accurate to use the hoops with the PE turnbuckles? would the turnbuckles hold up with minimal tension from monofilament rigging? sorry for all the rookie questions, this plane has been sitting on my desk for months now however with your help I think I can have a go at it I have 6 packs of turnbuckles to work with..took forever to arrive by mail, PE is amazing.
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 11:17 AM UTC
very nice ...I like those stripes!..verrrrry NICE
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 06:12 PM UTC
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I have a download from JACKFLASH that I purchased awhile back but I need more detailed help since I am a beginner.I like the hoop method you have used, would it be reasonably historically accurate to use the hoops with the PE turnbuckles? would the turnbuckles hold up with minimal tension from monofilament rigging? sorry for all the rookie questions, this plane has been sitting on my desk for months now however with your help I think I can have a go at it I have 6 packs of turnbuckles to work with..took forever to arrive by mail, PE is amazing.
Yes sir. The ends of the rigging cables were half looped and tied back on themselves. In scale its easy to do one end but the other end is uaully a bit more tricky. These sectioned tubes representing the turnbuckles themselves are a great way to get that taught line thats needed to represent rigging. I am a fan of Bob's Buckles and use them on occassion. Yet the simple method of "cat's cradle" is still the easiest to start with. We hope to get Terri to do a "Feature Article" on the method used in the Pfalz D.IIIa build
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 07:45 PM UTC
Wow, beautiful!
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:34 PM UTC
Simply beautiful! Everything about it is perfect- the colours scheme is so great, and all the added details really make it special.
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Posted: Monday, September 07, 2009 - 10:35 PM UTC
That turned out really great looking Terri.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 01:24 AM UTC
Hey thanks Guy's ! I must say it does look very sharp sitting next to the stripe Alb D.Va i did last year
Dave , As for been hictorically accurate the rigging method I used for this project and others as well will do just fine . I have the Eduard PE set for turn buckles and in my opinion I just don't use most of them . To flat , so I only use them in areas where the surface is to small to get into . Look back at the pic's at the land grea and you will see two PE turnbuckles . They are the only ones used in the build . I have a few of the Part of Poland turnbuckles and you fold them over , but then they have a box look to them which i stay away from . Bobs Buckles are top notch like Stephen said but I haven't tried them yet . What it comes down to is what you are comfortable with doing . There are many rigging methods out there , I have a few of them which I use . Best thing to do is practice different methods on a junk model and see what you like best . If you have any question just ask , some here will help out .
Are you suggesting something here Stephen !
I can do that , I'm working on another D.IIIa in 48 scale . So when I'm ready to start the rigging on that bird I will do a feature arcticle on rigging biplanes .
Dave , As for been hictorically accurate the rigging method I used for this project and others as well will do just fine . I have the Eduard PE set for turn buckles and in my opinion I just don't use most of them . To flat , so I only use them in areas where the surface is to small to get into . Look back at the pic's at the land grea and you will see two PE turnbuckles . They are the only ones used in the build . I have a few of the Part of Poland turnbuckles and you fold them over , but then they have a box look to them which i stay away from . Bobs Buckles are top notch like Stephen said but I haven't tried them yet . What it comes down to is what you are comfortable with doing . There are many rigging methods out there , I have a few of them which I use . Best thing to do is practice different methods on a junk model and see what you like best . If you have any question just ask , some here will help out .
Are you suggesting something here Stephen !
I can do that , I'm working on another D.IIIa in 48 scale . So when I'm ready to start the rigging on that bird I will do a feature arcticle on rigging biplanes .
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Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 05:36 AM UTC
I had no idea you fold them over as they arrived with no instructions, I will give them a try and eventually give the q-tip method a try, looking very forward to a rigging tutorial. the rigging is very daunting for a beginner since so much detailed methods. I thank all of you for your help.I do belong to a local modelling club however they have not been much help
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Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 08:48 AM UTC
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Hey thanks Guy's ! . . .Are you suggesting something here Stephen !
I can do that , I'm working on another D.IIIa in 48 scale . So when I'm ready to start the rigging on that bird I will do a feature arcticle on rigging biplanes .
Terri its true. We love that thing you do! Model On!
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Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 08:53 AM UTC
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I had no idea you fold them over as they arrived with no instructions, I will give them a try and eventually give the q-tip method a try, looking very forward to a rigging tutorial. the rigging is very daunting for a beginner since so much detailed methods. I thank all of you for your help.I do belong to a local modelling club however they have not been much help
You will find that WWI in plastic or resin in scale is a subject most people have no clue about. So much junk has been published. Here we believe in historical truth and the modeler's own sense in their build. It keeps things fresh. It also helps we don't take ourselves too seriously.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 03:08 PM UTC
No trouble at all Dave We are all here to learn and aid each other .
Stephen ,
Stephen ,
Posted: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 03:23 PM UTC
Great Pfalz, Terri!
For some reason the Pfalz is a favorite of mine. Though it is in pieces, I have an old K&B 1/48 Pfalz, built about 30 years ago, with hand painted lozenge on the fuselage! I think I got that from the movie The Blue Max. I'll dig her out for a photo someday when my current life calms down.
For some reason the Pfalz is a favorite of mine. Though it is in pieces, I have an old K&B 1/48 Pfalz, built about 30 years ago, with hand painted lozenge on the fuselage! I think I got that from the movie The Blue Max. I'll dig her out for a photo someday when my current life calms down.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 09:25 PM UTC
Beautiful as always Terri...the build that is I mean :-P
Dave...I have several builds all stalled at the rigging stage, so don't think you are alone.
Terri's q tip method....the tubes here must be different plastic s they melt into blobs in a flash (UK) mind you I'm trying with Johnsonns, I havent seen Qtips here about.
Keith
Dave...I have several builds all stalled at the rigging stage, so don't think you are alone.
Terri's q tip method....the tubes here must be different plastic s they melt into blobs in a flash (UK) mind you I'm trying with Johnsonns, I havent seen Qtips here about.
Keith
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Posted: Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 02:21 AM UTC
Thanks Fred !
I would love to see the kit when life calms down for you and returns
Thank -you Keith ! thought you where missing in action or all tangled up in rigging lines up in the attic ! Hope every thing is well for you .
As for the Q-tips I'm not sure what brand names you guy's have on that side of the pond . The ones I used for the last two builds came from the dollar store and are different then to the Brand name of Johnson and Johnson . It was tricky on the pulling . pull to fast and it wouldn't work , pull to slow and the plastic cools very fast or would break forming globs of plastic on the ends .
I would love to see the kit when life calms down for you and returns
Thank -you Keith ! thought you where missing in action or all tangled up in rigging lines up in the attic ! Hope every thing is well for you .
As for the Q-tips I'm not sure what brand names you guy's have on that side of the pond . The ones I used for the last two builds came from the dollar store and are different then to the Brand name of Johnson and Johnson . It was tricky on the pulling . pull to fast and it wouldn't work , pull to slow and the plastic cools very fast or would break forming globs of plastic on the ends .
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Posted: Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 07:42 AM UTC
Terri, thanks, yesI've bin through a dry uninspirational spell for building, lifes ups and downs. But today got on with my DVII for "Stripes in the sky" and got some done so I feel better for it
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Posted: Friday, September 11, 2009 - 08:09 AM UTC
I had a look at Bobs buckles site and his pics/tutorial solves all my problems, he uses nearly the same method, I am going to try and hunt down some of the brass tubing he reccomends
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Posted: Friday, September 11, 2009 - 08:54 AM UTC
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I had a look at Bobs buckles site and his pics/tutorial solves all my problems, he uses nearly the same method, I am going to try and hunt down some of the brass tubing he reccomends
Try Model Rail Road or RC shops.
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Posted: Friday, September 11, 2009 - 01:26 PM UTC