REVIEW
Roden 1:32 SSW D.III
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 03:51 PM UTC
The Roden 1:32 Siemens Shuckert D.III kit has well defined overall pieces, plastic has minor flash and needs the usual clean up. It also has finely moulded cockpit and some detail parts. I will discuss and also reference the variations you can make to alter this kit into either this late production verison the early production D.III variant or the later model D.IV.
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Thanks!
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 12:29 AM UTC
Fantastic review Stephen ! It was while worth the wait . Covering the early D.III and the late models as well as the D.IV was a plus on making the changes to the kit .
Thanks for your knowledge on the subject and sharing !
Will have to get two kits now !
Germany
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 12:39 AM UTC
Hi Stephen .. you really got me with your subject line .... but now I will check the board for real 1/48 scale stuff
cheers
Steffen
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Merlin
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 01:24 AM UTC
Hi Steffen
All present and correct now - but that "1:48" got me excited too!
Still - nice Review Stephen! I definitely want one of these beauties!
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:56 AM UTC
I assume your referring to the 1:48 gun sights on a 1:32 kit?
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 09:04 AM UTC
You wrote "Roden 1:48 SSW D.III" in the subject line of your thread .. Rowan changed that
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 09:05 AM UTC
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I assume your referring to the 1:48 gun sights on a 1;32 kit?
Hi Stephen
No (of course, coming across all our excitement late thanks to the TZ difference, you wouldn't know what we were on about) - you set the scale on your thread title for 1:48. Roden should take note of the interest...
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 04:19 PM UTC
Gadzooks and hot marimba! I hate trifocals! Its a good thing Rowan got to it. Maybe its my Freudian slip showing.
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Mendoza, Argentina
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 08:02 PM UTC
Very informative review Stephen, congratulations!
I will have to buy this one too.....
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Jorge Luis Borges
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2010 - 12:32 PM UTC
Aeroscale Member Tom Sollers of Microsculpt.com has this to say about some conversion sets.
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Greetings, everyone!
FWIW, I ran across this over at Roll Models for Plastic Models and all Related Items!. Under their "Loon Models" line, they have released two conversions for Roden's 1/32 SSW D.III:
Loon Models 1/32 'Master Series' Correction/Conversion/Detail Sets
LO32006 — Siemens-Schuckert D.III early conversion including early full-cowling(2), engine brace & supports, unvented spinner, early wingtips & ailerons and early tail pieces for Roden kits. $23.00 USD
Loon Models 1/32 'No-Cut' Conversions
LO32207 — Siemens-Schuckert D.III Standard & Late conversion with standard and late cowlings, engine brace & supports, unvented spinner and early horizontal tail for Roden kits. $18.00 USD
There are no images, so I cannot comment on accuracy or quality.
Cheers!
Tom
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England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, May 17, 2010 - 08:01 PM UTC
Sorry any chance of a better link, as i seem to just get the home page, where should i be looking!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 01:30 AM UTC
Really new stuff in standard catalogue order. Scroll down to Loon
RAGIII
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Posted: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 02:12 AM UTC
Interesting , would be nice to see this in 48 scale .
Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 07:34 AM UTC
A close look at the lozenge decals will show that the undersurface pattern has been flipped over / mirror imaged. Should be the same as the upper surface.
Stephen has been very polite in his review about the colouring of the lozenge decals. I realise this is quite a contentious topic but the Roden colours are quite different to other manufacturers that are generally regarded as accurate eg Eagle Strike. Also quite different to Doug Baumann's lozenge decal colours that went through an extensive development process over at The Aerodrome under the guidance of Dan San Abbott and others.
The lower surface lozenges in my kit suffer from overlapping colours which look quite odd.
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Posted: Friday, November 12, 2010 - 07:59 AM UTC
James I can't fault the overlap too much. To a degree it is present on the real printed examples of WWI. It was a safe guard against gaps in the colours.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 - 08:34 AM UTC
I now have enough veneer wood to cover all fuselage panels.
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Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 07:14 AM UTC
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James I can't fault the overlap too much. To a degree it is present on the real printed examples of WWI. It was a safe guard against gaps in the colours.
What's up with your photo here Stephen? I only see a red X.
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Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 05:03 PM UTC
I have it in the clear. Its a section of under surface lozenge fabric from w/n 6746. Anyone else have a problem seeing it? If your seeing it at a work /employment station their firewall may not allow you to see it.
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Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 08:40 PM UTC
No I am at home. Curiously the photo came up OK a couple of days ago, but when I came back to comment it was gone. Maybe the bandwidth has been exceeded for the hosting site?
From memory, the colour overlap on the fabric was thin and not particularly noticeable. By comparison the colour overlap on the Roden decals is quite pronounced (on the undersurface) and affects some colours and not others. It doesn't really mirror the fabric at all in my opinion. But then I guess its all a bit subjective isn't it. Personally I would replace the kit decals.
Viewers can judge for themselves:
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Posted: Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 06:20 AM UTC
As has been noted the Roden bottom lozenge strip has the pattern flipped and both upper and lower sets are several shades off the mark.
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Posted: Saturday, August 31, 2013 - 03:04 AM UTC
I recently purchase another of the Loon Models SSW D.III resin upgrade kits for Roden's 1/32 SSW D.III.
I had the #LO32006 — Siemens-Schuckert D.III early conversion including early full-cowling(2), engine brace & supports, unvented spinner, early wingtips & ailerons and early tail pieces for Roden kits. $23.00 USD.
Review done by me
I just picked up the Loon Models 1/32 'No-Cut' Conversions #LO32207 — Siemens-Schuckert D.III Standard & Late conversion with standard and late cowlings, engine brace & supports, unvented spinner and early horizontal tail for Roden kits. $18.00 USD.
Review done by "Thegirl" Terri
With the 2 Roden kits I have, I will add these Loon sets to my upcoming builds.
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2013 - 02:20 AM UTC
Glad to see you final pick the other set Stephen . Have you tried test fitting the cowls to the fire wall ?
Terri
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Posted: Monday, September 02, 2013 - 07:50 AM UTC
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Glad to see you final pick the other set Stephen . Have you tried test fitting the cowls to the fire wall?
Terri
Well look what just walked through the front door!!! Terri you have been gone too long. I am remodeling the cafe and was scraping down the pink paint in your corner wishing you were there to help.
Yes, test fitting is ongoing at this time. Cowlings, ailerons, bits and pieces all need to be looked at. Going to the ailerons, elevators and rudder, when you separate parts that are moulded together as one unit you often get flat edges at the cut lines and the originals had cupped trailing edges or beveled leading edges to fit in the cupped trailing edges. When you try to bevel a part to fit it will loose some depth in chord (distance from leading edge to trailing edge) and takes away from the over all area of a part. This can cause a misfit / mismatch of parts. I will attempt to show you the general improvements that can be added when augmented by detail or upgrade parts that are designed to add that scale realism.
I'll start separate threads on the builds.
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