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Merlin
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:18 AM UTC
Hi Wildcat!!

That is a pretty astonishing bit of restoration work... how did you strip the old model down? I think I've got a few candidates for similar treatment!

I've loved Hans Illner's '109 since the the first time I saw photos of those lips...! A bit different from a "sharksmouth"! I can't see what canopy you've got in the pics, but my references show an early style "un-armoured" one. If you're really feeling ambitious "Gretel" may have been painted in yellow... hard to tell.

Hopefully, you've seen Holdfast's post suggesting an annual BoB campaign...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 11:24 AM UTC
Majestic Cat:

Great looking effort on your part. The paint appears very crisply done, as is the decal work. No constructive criticisms at this point that I can see.

Couple questions for you.
(1) Do you have plans for the cockpit, and
(2), is the Lipped/Cig decal the real deal, or is this a Cat addition to the model?

Just curious.

Thanks.
Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 08:03 PM UTC
It's looking real good !
The building and the painting are very crisp and the decorations are a real surprise !
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 10:07 PM UTC
Nicely done! How did you apply the spots?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 03:29 PM UTC
very nice herr cat!that looks like the tamiya kit is it?Once again very beautiful!
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:43 AM UTC
Cat, this looked real neat, especially the lip, it's just so you. I look forward to pics with canopy installed very soon.

Good work so far. no complaints. (++)
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 05:55 AM UTC
Awesome. Makes me want to go strip some of my real old planes. Love those lips. Can we get a head-on shot?

Looks like you could maybe use another coat of gelb on the rudder. So hard to get good coverage with yellow...
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:50 AM UTC
Actually the rudder on the real a/c looks very patchy in my reference pics... it might have had a light overspray, which I think was applied to the fuselage as well. Wildcat's model depicts the a/c in it's "clean" state as it would have appeared before the mechanic set to work with his spray gun...

It's easy to make too neat a job of things like the field-applied Gelb 04 tactical markings. In real life, they were often quickly and badly applied... check a reference wherever possible... :-)

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:02 AM UTC

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It's easy to make too neat a job of things like the field-applied Gelb 04 tactical markings. In real life, they were often quickly and badly applied... check a reference wherever possible...



Good point, Rowan, and probably just what rotc_cat was going for. Does that mean the spinner is too neat/even, or were they better with the front end? Or did it just vary by plane.

I'm not joking about wanting a head on shot! I demand immediate gratification! #:-)
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 07:12 AM UTC

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Does that mean the spinner is too neat/even, or were they better with the front end? Or did it just vary by plane.



Hi Part-timer...

Believe it or not... the spinner DOES look patchy in the pics... no kidding!! :-)

It definitely varied between a/c - probably because the pilots' survival instinct told them to tone down all that yellow paint!...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 06:32 PM UTC
Hi Wildcat,

You could always contact Tamiya for a spare... (sorry, I can't tell you the part no.s, because I threw out my set of instructions after the BoB build!)

Otherwise, would posing the Squardron canopy open help get things to fit? You might be able to adjust it easier once it's in three pieces...

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, July 18, 2003 - 11:57 PM UTC
Cat good work , the lips really set this plane apart ( kinda reminds me of the rolling stones )
i'll be waiting to see the finished product
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 02:00 AM UTC

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And per Part-timer's request, here's a head on shot:)



Aww, yeah, baby! Look at that! Hilarious! :-) I am definitely building one of those at some point!

If I can get my yellow to come out as well as yours, I won't be displeased.
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 02:22 AM UTC
Are you going to do any weathering? Nice save.

Scott
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 04:23 AM UTC
:-) A very well salvaged kit, looks great. A pity you weren't able to get this to the BfB campaign. It might (MIGHT) just have given all those 109s the edge they were lacking :-)
The only point I would like to make is that the Wheel wells look to be the same colour as the undersurface, RLM 65? You might have references that would prove me wrong, but I believe they would have been RLM 02. The same as the cockpit, gear legs and inside of gear doors :-)
Mal
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 02:17 AM UTC
nice job on that 109
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