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FalkeEins
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Posted: Friday, April 23, 2010 - 06:21 AM UTC

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I want one , I want one !



.. only the one ...make mine 3 at least..!

their La-5 was superb ..

what sort of price will this go for in Western Europe ..and more to the point when is it due to arrive here, any ideas ?

My Luftwaffe blog
CaptainA
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 07:53 AM UTC
I just ordered one
Tarok
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Posted: Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 10:33 AM UTC

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I just ordered one



From?
CaptainA
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Posted: Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:58 AM UTC
I guess I should have said pre-ordered.

http://www.greatmodels.com/

Status: Taking Pre-Orders
Approximate Release: May 2010
Retail Price: $26.95
Your Price: $21.55
You Save: $5.40 (20%)
pikas01
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Taipei, Taiwan / 台灣
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Posted: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 03:03 PM UTC
Hi Sergey
Do you start to build the 109?
I want to see more pcitures,when you build it.

mmoustaf
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Posted: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 10:43 PM UTC

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One curious mismatch I found in my research, and I wonder if Mansur Mustafin can confirm: Measurements I got from a Me-109E, from below the canopy at the front of the mobile canopy portion, at 90° from that to the wingtop, indicate to me a 1.6 inches (41 mm) difference of depth with the F/G/K series, implying the Me-109E has 41 mm thinner wings at or near the wing spar... This would mean the same main modular fuselage portion should not be used for the Me-109E and the Me-109F/G/Ks: it is nearly a whole 1 mm in difference on fuselage side depth...

Here are the measurements I was given for the "Flying heritage" Me-109E in Washington state (a fully original airframe found buried in a beach in France), and those I made for the F (an unrestored airframe found intact in Russia):

F: Mobile canopy front-to-wingtop at 90°: 26 inches: 660.4 mm.

E: 27.6 inches: 701 mm...

The whole question is: Are those "Flying Heritage" E measurements correct... It IS a completely different wing...

In any case, with this new Zvezda Me-109F, it is already clear to me from these photos that the Hasegawa kits will be finally exposed as the hopeless warts that they always were...

Good riddance! A real Me-109... Finally!

Many thanks to Zvezda and all those involved...

Gaston



Hello Gaston!

I'm here. Well I own both 109F and 109E fuselage blueprints so I can help you with your question. but also if you look at Moelders W.Nr 5628 you'll see that it has 109E fuselage afterpart with canopy and wing joints.

The 1 mm difference could be because of some angle inconsistence, however the drawings of these sections may help. I will find them out my archive and put it on forum

Concerning the controversal oppinions on whether 109F-2 had one-piece upper wing sheer or a three piece I can say that according to a Ersatzteilliste 109Fs had two type of wings:

K50/K51 (left and right) and F500/F501.

K50/K51 wing was common for WNF F-1 and F-2 and Erla F-2 with squared wheel wells and it had one-piece upper sheet.

The latter one (500/501) had enforced rib also used to mount underwing MG 151/20 and was really introduced on WNF F-4s and other F-4s, underwing guns for them were mounted in Tarnewitz for the first 109F-4s of I/JG52.
This wing had three piece upper sheet and rouded wheel wells.


Also in 1940 and in 1941 there were about 20 to 30 aerial incidents due to weak wing structure problems because one-piece upper sheet, and some wings were reinforced using additional plates near wingroot and later on K500/501 wing was introduced for F-2 but it came into production only on F-4s.


Regards, Mansur.
Merlin
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Posted: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 11:16 PM UTC
Hi Mansur

Welcome to Aeroscale! It's great to have you with us and thank you for your helpful information. I really look forward to seeing the fuselage data - that would be a great one to finally pin down conclusively.

All the best

Rowan
OygenDem
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Posted: Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 10:45 AM UTC
For Zvezda Bf-109F-2
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/myarticles/article_storyid_2924.html
http://scalemodels.ru/modules/forum/viewtopic_t_22775.html
alpha_tango
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Posted: Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 09:24 PM UTC
Hello Zhenya

thank you for the links! I have that correction set on order from ebay (and I do not even have the kit ) mainly because of the defect prop blade in the kit.

Sergey also posted his progress on Hyperscale Plastic Pix (for those that read kyrillic even less than myself). Can you provide some info on the Galland pictures? Does Sergey want to do a conversion to one of the two aircraft (either wing armament or heavier fuselage armament)?

Thanks!

vsyevo khoroschevo

Steffen
KosachevSergey
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Posted: Monday, June 14, 2010 - 09:53 AM UTC

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Does Sergey want to do a conversion to one of the two aircraft (either wing armament or heavier fuselage armament)?



Hi Steffen!

As you have seen on HS, I'm going to release conversion set for Galland's WNr 6711. Master patterns are ready (as well as for correction set):



Both sets will be released in a couple a weeks.

PS Great work on FM-2 BTW.
Sergey.
FloydWerner
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Posted: Monday, June 14, 2010 - 10:44 AM UTC
Sergy,
What is the link to the correction set and the Galland set. I want three of the corrections and one Galland set.
Floyd
alpha_tango
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Posted: Monday, June 14, 2010 - 07:44 PM UTC
Thank you Sergey!

as Floyd I am in for a few correction sets and the conversion too!

all the best

Steffen
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Posted: Monday, June 14, 2010 - 08:50 PM UTC
Hi Sergey

That looks fantastic. Galland's aircaft have always fascinated me - I might have to treat myself to another Zvezda Friedrich or two...

All the best

Rowan
alpha_tango
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Posted: Friday, July 02, 2010 - 07:54 PM UTC
Hi all

I bought my kit yesterday and I must say that it is a beauty!!! I am really looking forward to see the Vector stuff for sale so I can do the Galland conversion ....

BTW even the pilot looks very nice - except for the head maybe, But I will have to test fit it before I can tell for sure.

cheers

Steffen
Tomcat31
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 01:55 AM UTC

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BF-109



when do you all learn to write the designation correct ... I even already mentioned it above

Have you ever thought it's because we know it winds you up so much

The kit does look nice but I myself would be inclined to get the Vector stuff and do Galland's BF-109
KosachevSergey
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 03:14 AM UTC

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I am really looking forward to see the Vector stuff for sale so I can do the Galland conversion ....



Hi Steffen!

Both sets already on sale in States, and next week will be available from NeOmega and Ultracast. And some photos of the Galland's plane to warm your appetite







Sergey.
alpha_tango
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 03:55 AM UTC
Thanks Sergey!

I have just searched today and found Guy's post on HS PT

So I hope my "moscwichnii" (not sure this is correct) souce on ebay will have it soon for sale

thanks for the pix, just saved them for my build...

all the best

Steffen
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Posted: Saturday, July 03, 2010 - 04:15 AM UTC
Hi Sergey

Thanks for the pics. That's interesting! - two different aircraft, or two different paint schemes anyway. There's the famous Mickey Mouse emblem in the last one.

All the best

Rowan
cinzano
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Indiana, United States
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Posted: Monday, July 19, 2010 - 08:58 AM UTC
OK,

I'm impressed. Just got this kit in the mail today. (very nice). I had thought it would be something of a rehash of the UM kit (which is awful).

In spite of some packaging similarities as well as some engineering similarities (notably the tail and wing tip plugs), it is a very different bird from the UM kits.

Looking very much forward to the build.

Cheers,
Fred
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:29 AM UTC

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I am really looking forward to see the Vector stuff for sale so I can do the Galland conversion ....



Hi Steffen!

Both sets already on sale in States, and next week will be available from NeOmega and Ultracast. And some photos of the Galland's plane to warm your appetite







Sergey.



Anybody make the markings for 6711 in 1/48?

AfterburnerDecals
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 06:55 PM UTC
If any enterprising decal guys want to add this aircraft to their line, I have the art done. It doesn't really fit in our "milieu" so to speak
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