Hi Guys !
I'm an Armor Modeller looking to build a nice 1/48 F-22 Raptor
I've never built a serious Aircraft, but would love to build one of these beasts !!.
My preference is a fairly straight forward build, but by the same token something reasonably accurate.
Which kit should I get ?
Hasagawa
Academy
Italeri
I'd rather build OOTB, but if I really need some AM stuff to get the best result, what should it be ?
Cheers
Paul
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Best F22 Kit for Aero "Newbee" in 1/48
ppawlak1
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Posted: Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 09:37 PM UTC
Keeperofsouls2099
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:29 AM UTC
Hasegawa if you scroll down through the modern forums you will see the review I did
ppawlak1
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:33 AM UTC
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Hasegawa if you scroll down through the modern forums you will see the review I did
Thanks Justin !
Lots or parts from what I see (seeing I'm a Newbee ) , much better than Academy ????
james84
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:40 AM UTC
Well, if you are an experience modeller you won't have any difficulty.
I read some reviews about the 1/48 kits you mentioned because I wanted one, but in the end I didn't get it, and chose the Revell 1/72 kit (which is not small at all though).
The Italeri one is very old and has several fit issues. It should be based on the prototype versions, so I would exclude it.
Academy's is very good, though the cockpit could benefit of a new seat. IIRC there should be some minor fit issues in some areas (i.e. in the exhaust nozzles area), but nothing serious. The decal sheet (always if I remember well) is the most comprehensive and allows you to depict Raptors from ALL the squadrons that use them (tailcodes: AK, FF, WA, HO, ED, OT, TY).
The Hasegawa kit seems to be more precise in the building and features a lot of parts, most of which are supposed to be used inside the fuselage in order to make a sort of "skeleton" which makes the two halves of the fuselage align correctly. Only the panels on the fuselage seem to be a bit thick, but it seems the most complete, also because it feature PE parts for the nozzles. Check the photos here
http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=8307&highlight=hasegawa+raptor
Hasegawa also released a bigger PE set which also features the weapon bay doors. I've seen it some days ago at the shop, it's HUGE (and not cheap at all - €35).
And also released is a SHAMEFUL box of the same kit with manga decals, issued by Hase BEFORE the "ordinary" version!
If it was up to me to choose, I would go for the Academy, also for the decals.
Somebody who built them will definitely tell you more, though.
Happy modelling!
I read some reviews about the 1/48 kits you mentioned because I wanted one, but in the end I didn't get it, and chose the Revell 1/72 kit (which is not small at all though).
The Italeri one is very old and has several fit issues. It should be based on the prototype versions, so I would exclude it.
Academy's is very good, though the cockpit could benefit of a new seat. IIRC there should be some minor fit issues in some areas (i.e. in the exhaust nozzles area), but nothing serious. The decal sheet (always if I remember well) is the most comprehensive and allows you to depict Raptors from ALL the squadrons that use them (tailcodes: AK, FF, WA, HO, ED, OT, TY).
The Hasegawa kit seems to be more precise in the building and features a lot of parts, most of which are supposed to be used inside the fuselage in order to make a sort of "skeleton" which makes the two halves of the fuselage align correctly. Only the panels on the fuselage seem to be a bit thick, but it seems the most complete, also because it feature PE parts for the nozzles. Check the photos here
http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=8307&highlight=hasegawa+raptor
Hasegawa also released a bigger PE set which also features the weapon bay doors. I've seen it some days ago at the shop, it's HUGE (and not cheap at all - €35).
And also released is a SHAMEFUL box of the same kit with manga decals, issued by Hase BEFORE the "ordinary" version!
If it was up to me to choose, I would go for the Academy, also for the decals.
Somebody who built them will definitely tell you more, though.
Happy modelling!
james84
Roma, Italy
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:41 AM UTC
Forgot: there are Aires cockpits both for the Academy and the Hasegawa models, and also Eduard released some resin addictions for them!
ppawlak1
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:51 AM UTC
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Forgot: there are Aires cockpits both for the Academy and the Hasegawa models, and also Eduard released some resin addictions for them!
Thanks Giacomo, the responses so far have been great !
I'm no "Mug" Modeller, but then I've never done anything Aero..
I'd prefer an OOTB accurate Styrene project, but if I need to add resin and AM to fix some REAL probs I will
I have an Aussie F-111 to do, but I really feel the need to do an F22 (maybe even a "What if ? Aussie Version ).
Cheers
Paul
james84
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 01:32 AM UTC
You're welcome!
ppawlak1
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Posted: Friday, June 18, 2010 - 04:53 PM UTC
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You're welcome!
I'd love to hear from someone who has built the Academy Version and what they think ....
It seems that it will either Academy or Hasagawa
ViperEnforcer
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:01 PM UTC
The Italeri kit is not even in the running; way too many major errors and omissions.
Hasegawa is by far the best 48th F-22 shape and accuracy wise. The Academy kit is ok, but the nose is too wide, canopy frame and cockpit sill have an erroneous bulge, has a blunt radome, vertical tails are about a scale foot too short, and the stabs are way too thin in cross section.
Hasegawa overall, nailed the F-22’s shape; a tall feat considering the how restricted access to the jet is. I was amazed at how accurate the cockpit, weapons bays and wheel wells were captured. The intakes were also impressive.
The one major drawback to the Hasegawa a kit is the exaggerated LO surface detail. These can be knocked down and primed over, but it may take some time. Even so, it’s more than worth it to get a much more accurately done F-22.
Mike V
Hasegawa is by far the best 48th F-22 shape and accuracy wise. The Academy kit is ok, but the nose is too wide, canopy frame and cockpit sill have an erroneous bulge, has a blunt radome, vertical tails are about a scale foot too short, and the stabs are way too thin in cross section.
Hasegawa overall, nailed the F-22’s shape; a tall feat considering the how restricted access to the jet is. I was amazed at how accurate the cockpit, weapons bays and wheel wells were captured. The intakes were also impressive.
The one major drawback to the Hasegawa a kit is the exaggerated LO surface detail. These can be knocked down and primed over, but it may take some time. Even so, it’s more than worth it to get a much more accurately done F-22.
Mike V
Posted: Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:11 PM UTC
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I have an Aussie F-111 to do, but I really feel the need to do an F22 (maybe even a "What if ? Aussie Version ).
RAAF Raptor, yes please, that would be sweeeeeeeeet Paul !!
ppawlak1
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Posted: Monday, June 21, 2010 - 07:18 PM UTC
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I have an Aussie F-111 to do, but I really feel the need to do an F22 (maybe even a "What if ? Aussie Version ).
RAAF Raptor, yes please, that would be sweeeeeeeeet Paul !!
Wouldn't that be something else Damian ?