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JU88 Painting question
MikeMx
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Posted: Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 07:14 AM UTC
I'm just about to start a 1/72 JU88C-6 of 4.S/KG72 based in the Ukraine in late 42. The instructions call for overall light blue, with a dirty white top coat and olive green splotches.
I'm guessing this means overall RLM65, with an uneven white coating on the upper surfaces with RLM71 splotches. Would I be right in thinking this or is there anyone out there that can advise me otherwise.

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Mike
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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 03:30 PM UTC

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I'm just about to start a 1/72 JU88C-6 of 4.S/KG72 based in the Ukraine in late 42. The instructions call for overall light blue, with a dirty white top coat and olive green splotches.
I'm guessing this means overall RLM65, with an uneven white coating on the upper surfaces with RLM71 splotches. Would I be right in thinking this or is there anyone out there that can advise me otherwise.


Hi Mike-
I'm no color expert, but my last build was a Ju88 and so I waded through a lot of stuff to settle on colors (but it was for a C-6 night fighter).
My general impression is that a C-6 day fighter would most likely be in a RLM 70/71 splinter pattern with an RLM 65 undersurface - just like Ju88 bombers. The worn whitewash over it might give the impression of green blotches on white, but I think it's more likely to have been green showing through blotchy white. The given date (1942) seems much too early for a scheme involving an overall lighter color.
Are you doing one of the Eastern Front Ju88C-6's with the fake glazing painted on the front (I love those....)?

Regards - Tom
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Posted: Monday, October 18, 2010 - 08:45 PM UTC
Its exactly one of those with the fake glazing!

I would have thought what you said might be the case but the instructions don't agree but so far I've found nothing else to say what it would be. The colour plates I've found don't give any hints either.

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Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 06:00 AM UTC
Hi Mike-

I'll check some of my references when I get home tonight. I'm pretty sure - now that I think about it - I have a photo of one of these aircraft somewhere.

Regards -
Tom
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 06:54 AM UTC
Thanks - I look forward to seeing what you come up with. I myself only have the same colour plate (side view only) that appears on Wings Palette.

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Mike
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 09:07 AM UTC
I'm away so I can't really investigate properly but my hunch would be the same as Tom's above. A 70/71 splinter showing through a white winter coat.
I just fail to see why you would take an aircraft that certainly came out of the factory essentially green,paint it white and then add green blotches!
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Steve
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 03:16 PM UTC
actually a lot of machines had the normal 70/71 splinter with RLM 65 sprayed on to make green looking blotches.

what are the aircraft's call letters? I have a lot of Ju 88 references and might be able to help specifically clear this one up.
MikeMx
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Posted: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 09:00 PM UTC
If by callsign, you mean then letters on the fuselage sides its F1 XM.

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Mike
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 12:13 PM UTC
Mike-
Sorry for the delay. The wife had alternate plans for me last night that did not involve the Ju88.

Here's a set of photos - allegedly of F1+XM, from W.Green's old "Warplanes of the 3rd Reich." (posting under fair use - will remove shortly).



I think these photos make it pretty clear that it is the 70/71 green scheme over RLM 65 with a blotchy whitewash covering.

Good luck - let us see it when she's done!

Regards - Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 04:03 PM UTC
And here's 2 more from "Junkers Ju88 In Action Pt.2":



(will remove these shortly)

Are you doing the Dragon 1/48 scale kit? If so, drop me a line if you'd like some assembly hints...I recently completed one for "Aces High 2."

Regards - Tom
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 01:56 AM UTC
Thanks for that - so 70/71 splinter on top with the white covering. I have a Hasegawa JU88A-4 in my stash, would I be able to use the camo pattern in that, prior to the whitewash?

The C-6 i'm building is the AMT 1/72 JU88C-6 which i picked up real cheap.

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Mike
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 03:15 AM UTC

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Thanks for that - so 70/71 splinter on top with the white covering. I have a Hasegawa JU88A-4 in my stash, would I be able to use the camo pattern in that, prior to the whitewash?

The C-6 i'm building is the AMT 1/72 JU88C-6 which i picked up real cheap.

thanks
Mike


Yes, the splinter scheme was a factory standard and consistent from aircraft to aircraft, so you can use the guide for another plane as the guideline for the top-side scheme prior to whitewash.

note that it would be accurate to not even do the whitewash since this was a temporary application. that plane undoubtedly served for at least a short time w/o the whitewash.
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 04:09 AM UTC
Thats something else useful to know if I ever do the kit again. I do intend to do the whitewash, just to be different than the standard 65/70/71 scheme.

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Mike
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 05:02 AM UTC
Just a further thought, did the C-6 dayfighter retain the dive brakes?

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Mike
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 08:40 AM UTC

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Just a further thought, did the C-6 dayfighter retain the dive brakes?

thanks
Mike


95% sure the answer is no dive brakes on a C-6. I'll check my references when I get home to be sure though.
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 02:21 PM UTC
all my references agree - no dive brakes on any C series Ju 88s
MikeMx
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Posted: Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 11:15 PM UTC
No dive brakes it is then!

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