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1/48 Mirage 2000B/2000D/2000N
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Posted: Monday, October 25, 2010 - 11:43 PM UTC


Kinetic Models have released a 1/48 Mirage 2000 two seater that can be built as either the B, D or N versions. This particular modeller is very pleased to see this release as the aircraft frequently flies over my home.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
betheyn
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 04:44 AM UTC
Cool, I do like a Mirage.
I wonder how this compares to the Eduard kit (ex Heller mould), I enjoyed building that one.
Might have to get this boxing.
Thanks for posting Tim.
Andy
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Posted: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 01:02 PM UTC
Nice here he goes again I feel him telepathically lifting the money from my wallet
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Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 05:05 AM UTC
A shame indeed they are not 1/32 - the 2000N in particular in this scale would look fabulous.

Lets hope they upscale it eventually?

Gary
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Posted: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 03:47 PM UTC

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Cool, I do like a Mirage.
I wonder how this compares to the Eduard kit (ex Heller mould), I enjoyed building that one.
Might have to get this boxing.
Thanks for posting Tim.
Andy


Unfortunately, the botched the canopies. They are not blown as the real ones are; a major missed key characteristic of the Mirages. Making matters worse, the canopies are overly wide and flat in profile. Compared to decent reference pics, it's blatantly obvious.

What a shame, as all I was expecting was the typical trenchy panel lines, but the canopy errors are a breaker. Glad I didn’t get rid of my Heller kits!

Mike V
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Posted: Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:31 PM UTC

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Unfortunately, the botched the canopies. They are not blown as the real ones are; a major missed key characteristic of the Mirages. Making matters worse, the canopies are overly wide and flat in profile. Compared to decent reference pics, it's blatantly obvious.

What a shame, as all I was expecting was the typical trenchy panel lines, but the canopy errors are a breaker. Glad I didn’t get rid of my Heller kits!

Mike V


Maybe someone will come to the rescue w/ some aftermarket canopies.
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Posted: Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 09:13 AM UTC
That would be nice, but I'm afraid there's more to the dimensional errors than just the canopies. Since the canopies are too wide, that also means the cockpit sills will be as well. This will result in an entire forward fuselage replacement, which would likely be quite an expensive correction set to add to an already expensive kit.

I've also been told that the canopy errors were intentional on Kinetic's part; a corner cutting approach, in order to reduce production cost. Not a wise decision on their part,

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Posted: Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 09:18 AM UTC
That seems like a backward way to cut costs....make the parts bigger, which is wrong, an takes more plastic to produce, to cut the kit costs?

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense in my book. Sort of the "more is less" approach with them.

Hopefully they will get the Tracker right!
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Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 02:00 AM UTC

I have seen the decals image and I am Upset with the Chinese guys....
The decals for the HAF aircraft are wrong and some important missing.
The S/N they produced carries Squadron Emblem on the vertical.
http://www.airpics.gr/photo/3342
Kinetic omitted it and also several stencils.
I will not buy the KINETIC, I will wait till Italeri to produce it. Italeri knows this job better. I hate this style of the Chinese. This quick money stuff they practice and take our money, really makes me angry.
Wait to see more reviews of how the plastic parts are in detail and fit.
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Posted: Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 03:02 PM UTC
Inaccruate decals adding insult to injury, to an already inaccurate airframe.

If you knew the profit margin they made off of each kit, you'd probably not want to buy another kit from the region again.

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Posted: Friday, November 26, 2010 - 12:24 AM UTC

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I have seen the decals image and I am Upset with the Chinese guys....
The decals for the HAF aircraft are wrong and some important missing.
The S/N they produced carries Squadron Emblem on the vertical.
http://www.airpics.gr/photo/3342
Kinetic omitted it and also several stencils.
I will not buy the KINETIC, I will wait till Italeri to produce it. Italeri knows this job better. I hate this style of the Chinese. This quick money stuff they practice and take our money, really makes me angry.
Wait to see more reviews of how the plastic parts are in detail and fit.


Panos, decals in a the kit are old style, light blue HAF roundels. At the time HAF received 2000, old style markings were applied. Later those were repainted in new dark blue. But in time period with light blue roundels, 2000Bs didn't wear this tail fin emblem. At least I didn't sow any photo with old style markings and emblem. If I'm wrong, please correct me. If you have enough photos from different periods, you will notice that the painting that surrounds roundel area is changed 3 times.

Here you have an nice preview that points some of the flaws on this kit.

http://inscale.org/pub/index.php?topic=673.0

Cheers
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Posted: Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 06:39 AM UTC
After reading that review I think I'll stick with my Eduard version. The Kinetic kit looks like it has some basic flaws that could be overcome, but for the money it seems they should have spent a bit more time on development before sending this one to market.


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Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:55 AM UTC
In all these posts on here, no-one seem to have built the kit. Jeez, typical AMS! makes me wanna puke.

As for the review, no mention of references or anything.

I'm gonna buy one and have fun building it.

And I won't be paying silly Hasejimi prices either.

Get a grip peeps.


W

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Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:12 AM UTC

Quoted Text

In all these posts on here, no-one seem to have built the kit. Jeez, typical AMS! makes me wanna puke.

As for the review, no mention of references or anything.

I'm gonna buy one and have fun building it.

And I won't be paying silly Hasejimi prices either.

Get a grip peeps.


W



First, Kinetic kit enter the market couple of days before... how you expect somebody could build the model???? And what references you want to be mentioned? In the above review you have enough pictures of dry assembled model. So if you do not trust the reviewer, check with your references, if you have any. I'm glad that you are much smarter than we are, so you have learn how to puke. Just buy and build the model and leave us to decide what we gonna do.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 03:34 PM UTC
Oh you guys kill me just build and have fun every kit has problems (that's why your a MODELER)over come them make it better.or if you want something perfect out of the box good luck finding it although it would be nice to save some money on after market stuff.But then the industry would probably go belly up lets face it after market parts play a very important part of the industry.Decals,canopy's,and what not.If you come to defense of a model kit on here you better be ready for a rivet counter or two to way in on it.So everybody play nice and have fun that's what aeroscale is about.ITS PLASTIC PEOPLE
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Posted: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 07:28 PM UTC
@Justin McCracken
+1

I fully agree with you. 100 people 100 tempers.Who can satisfy all of us?
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