Have a couple days worth of work on this one. Finding myself a little let down with the pit details, the kit leaves out a couple promonent details that could have been done easily enough. Oh well, can't have everything!!!
Right off the bat, you get to deal with this great big seam, right down the fuse sides!!!
I used regular ole printer paper to cover the panels with the seam and panels with ejector pin marks. Tamiya tape covers the gaps in the ribbing.
I scratched some detail for the rudder control, with stretched sprue and wire.
I added a fair amount of scratched details throughout the pit, including flare canisters(brass rod), oxy mask canisters(sprue), first aid box, wing spar and handcrank for camera door, a few do-dads here and there, seat harnesses(Tamiya tape), and stole a few ammo mags from other kits to put in there.
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Fermis
United States
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Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 02:19 AM UTC
Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 05:25 AM UTC
Hi Jeremy,
Nice start on the Great Wall Hobby kit...
I don't know how much you are into accuracy and such stuff, but you should know that the A-2 version was fitted with MG 81Z (Z for Zwilling) double guns instead of the single gun MG 17s. The latter had the ammo mags while for the MG 81Z there were ammunition boxes on each sides of the rear interior. They are visible on the interior I did and in the YouTube movie at 3:15 mn...
Sorry for the nitpicking but I thought it would be better to tell you this before the fuselage is closed. I know the GWH instructions tell you to glue some ammo mags but this is not correct for this version.
The other additions you made are appropriate though.
Jean-Luc
Nice start on the Great Wall Hobby kit...
I don't know how much you are into accuracy and such stuff, but you should know that the A-2 version was fitted with MG 81Z (Z for Zwilling) double guns instead of the single gun MG 17s. The latter had the ammo mags while for the MG 81Z there were ammunition boxes on each sides of the rear interior. They are visible on the interior I did and in the YouTube movie at 3:15 mn...
Sorry for the nitpicking but I thought it would be better to tell you this before the fuselage is closed. I know the GWH instructions tell you to glue some ammo mags but this is not correct for this version.
The other additions you made are appropriate though.
Jean-Luc
Fermis
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Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 08:50 AM UTC
Wouln't you know it?!!!!
I actually scratched them ammo crates first, then saw the extra mags on the sprues. I had a bunch of conflicting ref shots.....of course, when there's a 50/50 shot, I'm gonna get it wrong every time. Fuse is glued up, but there's enough room that I can do a bit of surgery, if my customer would rather have the crates!
I actually scratched them ammo crates first, then saw the extra mags on the sprues. I had a bunch of conflicting ref shots.....of course, when there's a 50/50 shot, I'm gonna get it wrong every time. Fuse is glued up, but there's enough room that I can do a bit of surgery, if my customer would rather have the crates!
Fermis
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Posted: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 - 04:37 PM UTC
Thanks to Jean-Luc for that bit of info!
I pulled all the ammo mags, did a bit of touch-up and put in the crates.
The I.P. is smooth and boring across the backside. With all that glass up front, it needs a little bit. I used bits of stretched sprue for the instrument casings and wired it up.
I pulled all the ammo mags, did a bit of touch-up and put in the crates.
The I.P. is smooth and boring across the backside. With all that glass up front, it needs a little bit. I used bits of stretched sprue for the instrument casings and wired it up.
Fermis
United States
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Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:35 PM UTC
I decided to close the fuse up before going any further. I taped off the open canopy areas from the inside and used liquid mask around the edges, just to be sure.
Without slight modification, the tail gun can only be positioned one way, easy enough mod though, if you wanted to.
The engines are simple enough. I just added a stretched sprue backer to the wiring rig and bent wire to run the rig all the way up to where it belongs.
The landing gears are very nice, a bit tedious, but nice. The fenders being the difficult part. The only attachment point is a tiny strip of PE that wraps the fender.
For the wing/boom assembly, the instructions give you a recipe for a headache, I threw em out! I cemented the (warped) booms, just up to the gearbay, then did the required sanding.
I cemented the booms to the upper/inner wing piece acroos the rear and only up the outer boom side. After cleaning up those seams, I was able to split the front open to install the gear and slip the engine in from the front.
The outer wing halves were then assembled, cleaned up and cemented to the boom. This took a bit of brutality and finess at the same time to get them to fit.
I still don't get why companies feel the need to engineer these things to have moving parts. Really makes for a PITA!!! The rudder, elevator, ailerons and outer flaps are movable, and the tailwheel is retractable......what for???? I love seperate control surfaces, but I like to put em on later. Anyway, I cut off the forward peg on the tailwheel, so it can be installed later, easing the masking process and less risk of damage.
Without slight modification, the tail gun can only be positioned one way, easy enough mod though, if you wanted to.
The engines are simple enough. I just added a stretched sprue backer to the wiring rig and bent wire to run the rig all the way up to where it belongs.
The landing gears are very nice, a bit tedious, but nice. The fenders being the difficult part. The only attachment point is a tiny strip of PE that wraps the fender.
For the wing/boom assembly, the instructions give you a recipe for a headache, I threw em out! I cemented the (warped) booms, just up to the gearbay, then did the required sanding.
I cemented the booms to the upper/inner wing piece acroos the rear and only up the outer boom side. After cleaning up those seams, I was able to split the front open to install the gear and slip the engine in from the front.
The outer wing halves were then assembled, cleaned up and cemented to the boom. This took a bit of brutality and finess at the same time to get them to fit.
I still don't get why companies feel the need to engineer these things to have moving parts. Really makes for a PITA!!! The rudder, elevator, ailerons and outer flaps are movable, and the tailwheel is retractable......what for???? I love seperate control surfaces, but I like to put em on later. Anyway, I cut off the forward peg on the tailwheel, so it can be installed later, easing the masking process and less risk of damage.
vonHengest
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Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 06:31 PM UTC
This is an awesome build Jeremy! I've subscribed to it, and I'm hoping to apply your modifications to my own once I get it. It will be my first superdetailing project
Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 06:55 PM UTC
Hi Jeremy,
Nice progress!
Funny how I did the build the same way as you. Great minds think alike...
I used the same thechnique to attach the engines by first glueing the rear of the booms. I also reduced the locating pegs of the tailwheel to left it aside until the end. Too bad it is not possible to do the same with the main gear legs. They remain in the way during the painting and it is sometimes a pain.
Watch out for the masks! They tend to peel off after a while so be careful when you apply paint or varnish.
I'm looking forward to the next step...
Jean-Luc
Nice progress!
Funny how I did the build the same way as you. Great minds think alike...
I used the same thechnique to attach the engines by first glueing the rear of the booms. I also reduced the locating pegs of the tailwheel to left it aside until the end. Too bad it is not possible to do the same with the main gear legs. They remain in the way during the painting and it is sometimes a pain.
Watch out for the masks! They tend to peel off after a while so be careful when you apply paint or varnish.
I'm looking forward to the next step...
Jean-Luc
vonHengest
Texas, United States
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Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 07:42 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Jeremy,
Nice progress!
Funny how I did the build the same way as you. Great minds think alike...
I used the same thechnique to attach the engines by first glueing the rear of the booms. I also reduced the locating pegs of the tailwheel to left it aside until the end. Too bad it is not possible to do the same with the main gear legs. They remain in the way during the painting and it is sometimes a pain.
Watch out for the masks! They tend to peel off after a while so be careful when you apply paint or varnish.
I'm looking forward to the next step...
Jean-Luc
Did you create a build log? It would be great to see yours as well Jean-Luc
Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 08:53 PM UTC
Hi Jeremy,
I haven't created a build log here but I have posted some images in the review's discussion thread: see here (page 2).
I have made a build log on the forum Master194 but you have to read french... You can find it here.
I've submitted some more pictures for a feature on Aeroscale a couple of days ago. I suppose that once the team here has erased the stigmates of the new year's celebrations it will be published...
Jean-Luc
Quoted Text
Did you create a build log? It would be great to see yours as well Jean-Luc
I haven't created a build log here but I have posted some images in the review's discussion thread: see here (page 2).
I have made a build log on the forum Master194 but you have to read french... You can find it here.
I've submitted some more pictures for a feature on Aeroscale a couple of days ago. I suppose that once the team here has erased the stigmates of the new year's celebrations it will be published...
Jean-Luc
NickZour
Attica, Greece / Ελλάδα
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Posted: Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 11:08 PM UTC
That's a great build until now
I'm now waiting for mine to arrive
Cheers Nick
I'm now waiting for mine to arrive
Cheers Nick
Posted: Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:24 AM UTC
Looks good, Jeremy. You are doing a stunning job on it.
Looking forward to see more
Looking forward to see more
vonHengest
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Posted: Monday, January 03, 2011 - 12:46 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Jeremy,Quoted TextDid you create a build log? It would be great to see yours as well Jean-Luc
I haven't created a build log here but I have posted some images in the review's discussion thread: see here (page 2).
I have made a build log on the forum Master194 but you have to read french... You can find it here.
I've submitted some more pictures for a feature on Aeroscale a couple of days ago. I suppose that once the team here has erased the stigmates of the new year's celebrations it will be published...
Jean-Luc
Thanks Jean-Luc! I do not read/speak French, but your pictures are very good and they help out a lot Any initial questions of mine were answered by your posts on Merlin's thread here on Aeroscale.
Jeremy: Do you plan on keeping the access panels off to show off the engines?
Fermis
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Posted: Monday, January 03, 2011 - 01:32 PM UTC
Thanks all!
I really have mixed feelings about this kit. One minute I love, the next I loath it!!!
Clean up around the wing/fuse join is a pain, but finally got that licked, and just getting her ready to have some paint thrown at her.
As for the finish set-up, all three canopies will be open, right side nacelle will be open, and only the right panel of the left nacelle will also be open. My customer the outer left closed to show the marking.
Oughtta be able to get the belly painted tonight, and the rest tomorrow, hoping to have it finished before the end of the week.
I really have mixed feelings about this kit. One minute I love, the next I loath it!!!
Clean up around the wing/fuse join is a pain, but finally got that licked, and just getting her ready to have some paint thrown at her.
As for the finish set-up, all three canopies will be open, right side nacelle will be open, and only the right panel of the left nacelle will also be open. My customer the outer left closed to show the marking.
Oughtta be able to get the belly painted tonight, and the rest tomorrow, hoping to have it finished before the end of the week.
Fermis
United States
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KitMaker: 39 posts
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Posted: Thursday, January 06, 2011 - 04:32 AM UTC
I finally entered the world of grown up painting. I had been using an old Testors A/B from Walmart.....I buried it out in the yard.
I replaced it with this combo set from Harbor Freight, $89.99 takes all!
Being my first time with a double action A/B, I went for very subtle effects. I sprayed the base colors as they are out of the bottle. Then lightened them with a bit of tan, and srayed between the panel lines, and then very lightly all over to blend things together.
I replaced it with this combo set from Harbor Freight, $89.99 takes all!
Being my first time with a double action A/B, I went for very subtle effects. I sprayed the base colors as they are out of the bottle. Then lightened them with a bit of tan, and srayed between the panel lines, and then very lightly all over to blend things together.