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KotS GB 2011 Fokker F.I wolfpack6
wolfpack6
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Posted: Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 11:28 AM UTC
Ive got back into modeling after a 2 year break, family matters. I am starting out with a Fokker Dr.I that was piloted by Ltn. Werner Voss. This is the tried and true 1/28 Revell kit with Toms PE and Copper Decals. I will post picks as soon as I figure out how:)
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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 06:22 AM UTC
I look forward to seeing what you do with this old favourite Todd.

I paste in from Photobucket to put my pics in rather than use the forum facilities.

Keith

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Posted: Monday, April 18, 2011 - 07:21 AM UTC
Here is where to enlist. Welcome!

Here is a bit of fun on the subject.

Click here.
wolfpack6
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:39 AM UTC

The start of the Engine

The Bacside

The Cockpit start

Inside Fusalage with metal frame, made with stretched sprue.

wolfpack6
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Posted: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:40 AM UTC
Sorry for the blurry pics, the best I can do right now.
And thank you for all the encouragement:)
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2011 - 01:01 PM UTC
Hi Todd

I remember this kit with some fondness as I built it in the early 1970s. I remember thinking that green streaks on a blue airplane must have been a mistake in the instructions.

I'm anxious to see how you turn this one out, particularly with the PE.
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Posted: Monday, May 02, 2011 - 07:44 PM UTC
Good to see you making progress Todd. Yes theres still life in the old Revell kit for certain.

Dennis, It's been the topic of conversations, discussions and heated arguments over time, whether the F1 and indeed some of the DR1's were finished in a base colour of turquoise under the streaking.

Theres written evidence to say yes and no of course. I do have to admit I fall into the Yes camp on this one, besides the fact it makes for a more attractive finish
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 02:13 AM UTC
Hi Keith

Trying not to hijack this thread (unfair to Todd) and stray too much off topic, it's my fault for not being quite clear, I originally thought, in my younger days, that the whole concept of green stripes on a blue background was a really strange combination for a camouflage pattern (then again I thought, at the time, that all triplanes were red!.

I certainly agree now that green on blue (or yellow-white) can be pleasing to the eye. I'm easy-I'll accept any of those described.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:28 PM UTC
Thanks Guys for all the encouragement.
Feel free to talk about the paint sceme, Im experimenting tonigt, Ill have pics tomarrow.
Sure could use some ideas:)
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Posted: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:39 PM UTC
Todd, feel free to check here abouts on the scheme you are doing. In some of the older threads you will find them done by other fine modelers. The F.I and Dr.I have been thoroughly explored. Eduard Fokker Dr.I & Roden Dr.I and F.I kits and streaking are some meta words to use in the search engine.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 02:51 AM UTC
Ok! time for an update.
The streaking isnt as easy as it looks so after a night and tinkering I think I got a suietable look.

My first attempt, didnt go to well.

This is what I have now

Spandau Mag added, still needs tweeking.
Ill keep everybody posted, and Ill have more pics today.
Hope everybody is having a great weekend.
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 07:40 AM UTC
Ok. as promised, more of my train wreck.

An overall view of my work so far

The completed engine, Washed in black and the exaughst is rustall.

the seat is the stock seat modified with my Daughters hair tie to simulate the leather ring on the seat.

The streaking can be seen better in this pic.

The upper wing, same technique as the fusalage.
Now Im waiting on Decals for the inserments and the plane itself.
Now where did I stash that D.VII?
dmopath
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 02:54 PM UTC
Hi Todd

I wholeheartedly agree-streaking is tough, but your attempt looks pretty good to me.

What did you use for paints and brushing? When I built Voss's plane I use oils (Winsor and Newton olive green) and a fan brush with a drop of Japan Dryer added. The oils gave me time to work with the streaks until I was reasonably happy. I initially tried a comb brush but I wasn't happy with the results.

Looking forward to further updates on this one...
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Posted: Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 03:55 PM UTC
Thank you kind Sir!
I started with a coat of enamel semi-gloss Light metallic blue on the whole wing upper and lower sides.
I also pre shaded all the ribs on the bottom.
Then I used gedium green acrylic paint watered down to a semi heavy wash consisity and then used a parts cleaning brush and just kept going with the pattern till the paint set up.
I will do a better article tomorrow, and have pics, the biggest trick is to have patience.
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Posted: Friday, June 03, 2011 - 09:54 AM UTC
Ok Kind Folks, time for an update
I have finally got a camera that is smarter than me and takes better pics than my computer cam
So this is going to be pic intense
And I cant say enough about Toms Model Works PE
The office

The Spandaus






Ill have this done tonight, just got the Decals
TTFN
wolfpack6
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 09:38 AM UTC
Ok folks the final product, not bad after all the years Ive been out of this.
Now all my attention is now on the Spad.
I would like to thank Kieth, Stephen and Dennis, and to all the wonderful articals I was directed too.



wolfpack6
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Posted: Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 09:55 AM UTC
And the best I could come up with References were paintings
These are my Historic References




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Posted: Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 12:44 PM UTC
Nice finale on that. Streaking looks good.
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 08:30 AM UTC
Hi Todd:

A noteworthy effort. It is nice to see these old Revell kits come to life. What's next?

dmopath
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:02 AM UTC
Hi Todd


Very nice result. Streaking looks good. I see that you went with the green cowling and the white tail instead of the yellow (my choice also).

If you want to have a crack at this version of the F1 sometime in the future I would heartily recommend the Encore kit from Squadron.
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Posted: Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:32 AM UTC
Thanks Marc, Mark and Dennis.
I would be more than happy to tell you how I managed to get that streaking look.
I just might do a tutorial on it after I perfect it, I have some ideas to improve on the looks om my next DR.1, and surprise it wont be the yellow nose Voss bird, its a secret till I start posting the build.
Right now Im on the Spad XIII early version, had to wait on some Toms Model Works PE and Decals from France, and they are slow in shipping.
I will be posting pics tonight of the Spad.
And a special thanks to Stephen for totally ruining me and making me come to the Dark Side away from Armor
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 05:15 AM UTC
Am I the only one who can't see your pictures...?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:17 AM UTC
Looks like they are gone?
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 07:53 AM UTC
Nope; I can't either and I really would like to......

Todd,
I did the he streaking thing on a Dragon DRI years ago and recall it took forever. A couple of quick photos attached below. I used a mixed version of CDL as the base coat and also a mixed version of the dark green (all Model Master enamels) and dry streaked it to get the effect. Also not optimum results so I look forward to any hints or help you may add to this article.

Look forward to your next update and photos when able.
Cheers,
Lance
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Posted: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 09:39 AM UTC
That is a Super Build Lance.
Im sorry to say it may be my fault, I used Artist paintings as my REF and all my photos were probably pulled because of that, and that was my own fault.
I do appologize for that, and lesson learned
Todd
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