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F-102 IN VIETNAM
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 08:43 PM UTC
WHAT KIND OF WING USED ON F-102 DURING VIETNAM DET
CASE X OR CASE XX?
after wings over water campaign i would like to build a f-102 during vietnam war
but i don't see any good reference about type of wing used any idee folk?
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Posted: Monday, September 22, 2003 - 11:10 PM UTC
Bat:
I am not perfectly clear on the question you are asking, but it is early here and I on the first cup of coffee. I managed to find this site about the 102 for ya and hope it gives you the answer your looking for.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/f102.htm

hope this helps
Paul

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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:11 AM UTC
Hi Paul
i tried but my computer didn't reach the page.
I noticed a problem with connecting any site with mil in the adress
For example i can't reach any site of ANG in the State.
Will try again and keep you informed.
Anyway thanks for early answer.
Bat-21 Regis
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:33 AM UTC
Bat:
I know what you are asking. 102's with serial numbers 56-1317 or higher had the Case XX wing, before that they were all Case X and no retrofitting was done was on earlier models. Unfortunately all my references can tell me is the Serial # where it changed, not what year that might have been.

BTW, was the 102 used by the Navy?
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 04:55 AM UTC

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BTW, was the 102 used by the Navy?



Nope, strictly Air Force/Air National Guard.
IIRC, the only fighter/interceptor/attack aircraft used by both services were the F-4 Phantom and A-7 Corsair II. The Navy did use some T-38 Talons (trainer version of the F-5 Tiger) and soem F-16's for aggresor training.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 05:24 AM UTC
As AJLaFleche nope the 102 was not used by the Navy. It was originally intended to intercept "Bears" before they reached CONUS as part of the Dew line defense system. In VietNam they were used primarily as B-52 escorts. The Navy has never had a love affair with Delta configurations, due to their high stall speeds. The few exceptions have been the F4D SkyRay, A4D SkyHawk, and the C-1 KFIR (F-21A). The KFIR was flown out of Oceana as an aggressor/trainer. Things that fall from the sky at high speed make big holes in flight decks.
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Posted: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 05:42 AM UTC

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Things that fall from the sky at high speed make big holes in flight decks.



hehehe

That's what I thought, I just wanted to make sure before I told Bat-21 that the 102 wasn't eligible for entry into WoW since it's a Naval Aviation campaign. Stug will have to verify this since it's his campaign, though.
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 09:14 AM UTC

IIRC, the only fighter/interceptor/attack aircraft used by both services were the F-4 Phantom and A-7 Corsair II. The Navy did use some T-38 Talons (trainer version of the F-5 Tiger) and soem F-16's for aggresor training. [/quote]

Hi All,

Two others: A-1 Skyraider and the A-3 Skywarrior/B-66 Destroyer.

Regards,

Fred
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 08:50 PM UTC
As i told you for wow campaign i'm busy with a phantom II
but i like to plan my future project in advance.
another question regarding f-102 during vietnam war: what's about the IR bulb in front of canopy? Was it also retrofitted or was it coming with specific serial nbre?
Thanks for info
Bat-21
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:30 AM UTC

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As i told you for wow campaign i'm busy with a phantom II
but i like to plan my future project in advance.



Oops sorry bat, I missed the 'after' part. Dunno about the IR.
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 08:07 PM UTC

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As i told you for wow campaign i'm busy with a phantom II
but i like to plan my future project in advance.
another question regarding f-102 during vietnam war: what's about the IR bulb in front of canopy? Was it also retrofitted or was it coming with specific serial nbre?
Thanks for info
Bat-21



The IR sensor used on F-101, F-102, F-104, F-106, F-110---F-4 and several '50's and '60's vintage Navy fighter/ interceptors, noteably the F-8 Crusader, was used for target acquisition for IR guided Falcon AAM's and early to mid-production Sidewinder AAM's

BlueBear sends.
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