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Acrylic RLM Colors? Need some help!
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 07:25 PM UTC
Hi guys, RLM Colors are driving me nuts... Not sure what to do.

I would prefer to find some RLM 70/71 in acrylic form. I am thinking of using pollyscales and adjusting it slightly to my tastes. Do you guys think that it's a good start?
I use Vallejo for my panzer colors and light blues, but I doubt they have anything nice for RLM 71/70.

I want an acrylic because I do most of my airbrushing in my bedroom with the windows open. I don't want to use enamels.

This 262 trainer was painted in Vallejo. I think I did an okay job of matching RLM 80/81? I think thats what I was shooting for... still have to memorize all my RLMs. lol
Thanks for any help you guys can provide for RLM 70/71!!!
Also, if you have used pollyscales RLM70/71, could you post a picture of it?

ajcmac
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 12:40 AM UTC
I just use Tamiya acrylic paints. They have a problem. Many RLM must be made ​​from mixtures.

RLM 70 - XF-27

RLM 71 - XF-62 (1) + XF-49 (1).

I hope this helps.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 12:51 AM UTC
Have you tried using Gunze Sangyo colors? Their acyrlic Mr Hobby paints has a wide range of RLM colors.

This Bf 109E-4 was painted completely using Gunze Sangyo. The wings are RLM 70 and 71.



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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 01:49 AM UTC
Have you tried http://www.paint4models.com/ should be able to match almost any color with the brand of your choice.
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 07:45 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I just use Tamiya acrylic paints. They have a problem. Many RLM must be made ​​from mixtures.

RLM 70 - XF-27

RLM 71 - XF-62 (1) + XF-49 (1).

I hope this helps.



Now, I have not used much other than Vallejo. How well do Tamiyas work? Easy to thin, what do I thin them with, Ect?

I think I might try this first.

Not sure where to buy Gunze paints.
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 08:05 AM UTC
Also, what do you all like for the rest of the RLMs?

RLM74/75 and 80/81
Jessie_C
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 09:25 AM UTC
You can get most if not all RLM colours premixed from the Testors Model Master Acrylics and Xtracrylix ranges.
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Posted: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 - 11:35 AM UTC
While the Military Masters Acrylic is a good line, good colors, and sprays well, I have found it does not like masking tape, even the tamiya stuff. Tends to come up easy. But I must say most of their colors are bang on, and I use then when there is no masking required.
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 08:05 AM UTC
I see. What about Tamiya tape? I find it works pretty good because it's not really sticky.
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:11 AM UTC
Yes, I have even had issues with the tamiya tape. It has been hit and miss for me when it comes to peeling up, I just try to avoid having to tape MM Acrylic.
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 10:31 AM UTC
No way to seal it I suppose? Maybe so it's stronger?
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 06:51 PM UTC
Vallejo most certainly do a complete range of RLM colours. You need to get their great airbrush range called "Model Air". RLM 70 is product number 71.021 (Schwartzgrun) and RLM 71 is product number 71.015 (Dunkelgrun)

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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 08:25 PM UTC
I'm not crazy about vallejos colors.
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 08:41 PM UTC
Gunze have a complete range of RLM colors in both acrylic and enamel. I use both but mostly acrylic. And I swear by Tamiya masking tape. I never use anything else and have never had any troubles with it peeling paint off.
emroglan
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Posted: Thursday, November 24, 2011 - 08:59 PM UTC
Alex, you can buy a whole range of Gunze colors from Luckymodel. These are the ones you might need (they are Mr Hobby colors which are acyrlic):

H-64 - RLM 71
H-65 - RLM 70
H-66 - RLM 79
H-67 - RLM 65
H-68 - RLM 74
H-69 - RLM 75
H-70 - RLM 02
H-416 - RLM 66
H-417 - RLM 76
H-418 - RLM 78
H-420 - RLM 80
H-421 - RLM 81
H-422 - RLM 82
H-423 - RLM 83
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 06:03 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Yes, I have even had issues with the tamiya tape. It has been hit and miss for me when it comes to peeling up, I just try to avoid having to tape MM Acrylic.

Have you tried priming the model before shooting your colour onto the kit and then masking? the primer should acts as a etch to the plastic and also allows the paint to grab the primer so when you mask it should help to prevent the paint lifting. Applying the paint directly to the smooth plastic just asks for the paint to be lifted if it can't etch itself to the plastic.

As for the colour I can recommend the Gunze range of paints also. Xtracrylics are good and are gloss ready but I find it hit and miss getting the right thinning ratio (even with their own thinner) and air pressure.
flyboy_fx
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Posted: Friday, November 25, 2011 - 06:26 AM UTC
Where can I buy them in the US? Perhaps online. The LHS does not stock them.
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