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Turkish Spitfires
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 12:28 AM UTC
I want to build a Mk Vb and a Mk IXe that has served in the Turkish Air Force between 1943 and 1947.



For the decals, I will use this decal sheet which was recently issued.


I began the assembly with the cockpit. On both models, I will cut and remove the cockpit hatch and replace it with an Ultracast resin hatch. The cockpit color is from the Gunze set. After I install the Eduard photo-etch seatbelts I will start the assembly of the fuselage parts.
1/48 Tamiya Spitfire Mk.Vb


Hasegawa Spitfire MkIXe
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:41 AM UTC
Don't forget to paint the seat back cushion black. It was always black leather (which means you can have lots of fun making it look nice and used).
Tomcat31
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 05:01 AM UTC
Is it me or are both of the pictures exactly the same
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 05:14 AM UTC
Thanks for advice Jessica.

Yes, you are right Allen, this one is true.

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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 06:49 AM UTC
I think you (we) will need after market parts for mk 9.
I recieved the decals today they are looking really good.
Congratulations
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 10:26 AM UTC
Those are going to look vey interesting. It's always nice to see aricraft in non-'traditional' markings. It might even be neat to see them parked beside an equally Turkish FW-190
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:10 AM UTC
Yes Berk, i bought some aftermarket parts for MkIXe.

Jessica, like this.


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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 11:44 AM UTC
Looks great...Watching will be interesting for me....Good luck...
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2011 - 01:21 PM UTC
Exactly like that! Now I'm wondering how I can get that decal here in Canada...
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 12:03 PM UTC
Cockpit is done.



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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 05:54 PM UTC
Very neat work so far Ayhan, I'm going to be following this dual-build for sure. Great choice of uncommon subjects.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 08:57 PM UTC

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Exactly like that! Now I'm wondering how I can get that decal here in Canada...



If you are serious Jessica, I might obtain the decals here and then send them to you via air post. It will take two days for the decals to reach me and I assume about a month for them to reach you.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 04:28 AM UTC

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If you are serious Jessica, I might obtain the decals here and then send them to you via air post. It will take two days for the decals to reach me and I assume about a month for them to reach you.



Thanks for the kind and generous thought. Ayhan's already offered me a set, so look for a review once they get here

However I'm sure that there may be more North American modellers who would be willing to take you up on the offer. Maybe set up a paypal account and become an exporter?
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Posted: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 06:50 AM UTC

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If you are serious Jessica, I might obtain the decals here and then send them to you via air post. It will take two days for the decals to reach me and I assume about a month for them to reach you.



Thanks for the kind and generous thought. Ayhan's already offered me a set, so look for a review once they get here

However I'm sure that there may be more North American modellers who would be willing to take you up on the offer. Maybe set up a paypal account and become an exporter?



I'm interested!

I've been meaning to do a Turkish Fw 190 since I visited Turkey in 2004!
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Posted: Sunday, December 25, 2011 - 10:09 PM UTC
After assembling the fuselage, I began the conversion for the Mk IX. The type E gun covers were obtained from Ultracast and these were replaced with kit parts. This will take some effort, but no major issues here. In addition, the machine guns must be deleted for a proper Mk IX conversion. To do this I first masked the panels on the wings and the ejection holes underneath the wing, then applied putty over these. The same was also done for the MG barrel holes. As you can see in the photos, the two bulges on the wings that Tamiya somehow made up were also masked to protect the detail around and then were removed by sanding.







As you can see, Tamiya is progressing faster than Tamiya and Hasegawa, as always. The wing assembly was also done, with a minor issue in the fuselage-wing-nose connection. I applied putty to the problematic area and I will sand it properly in a while. By the way, the gun barrels are from RB models and they are not fixed in place yet, they might be looking crooked at the moment.
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Posted: Sunday, December 25, 2011 - 11:33 PM UTC

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After assembling the fuselage, I began the conversion for the Mk IX. The type E gun covers were obtained from Ultracast and these were replaced with kit parts. This will take some effort, but no major issues here. In addition, the machine guns must be deleted for a proper Mk IX conversion. To do this I first masked the panels on the wings and the ejection holes underneath the wing, then applied putty over these. The same was also done for the MG barrel holes. As you can see in the photos, the two bulges on the wings that Tamiya somehow made up were also masked to protect the detail around and then were removed by sanding.]


Although the outer guns were removed, on the E wing, the compartments remained, and the covers were simply replaced by plain examples, so there's no need to fill the panel lines.
The "two bulges on the wings" were stiffeners, fitted to A & B wings, from July, 1942. There's no absolute guarantee that they were in place at the end of the war, but it's more likely that they were there.
Edgar
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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2011 - 12:22 AM UTC
Hi Edgar,
I have some reference photos about your comments.



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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2011 - 02:58 AM UTC
If you don't want to believe me (and Vickers-Supermarine,) that's entirely up to you.
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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2011 - 09:02 PM UTC

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If you don't want to believe me (and Vickers-Supermarine,) that's entirely up to you.



Sorry if I misunderstood you. Did you mean the shell case holes under the wing that should have been remained?
EdgarBrooks
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Posted: Monday, December 26, 2011 - 11:00 PM UTC
No, the covers were replaced by completely plain types (even the small bulge on the top of the outermost cover, which made room for the rear of the ,303", was removed.) When the first conversions, in the RAF, were done, it was permissible to cover the ejection ports, and gun muzzles, with a double layer of plain (not red) fabric patches; later, plain covers became available.
The bulges, just in front of the ejection ports, were there to deflect cold air away from the ports, to stop the breeches freezing up; when the guns were removed the bulges became redundant, too.
It's entirely possible that the covers might have been sealed (the compartments made ideal receptacles for bringing bootleg liquour home,) but even a couple of coats of paint would make the lines quite indistinct.
On the low-back XVI, due to the extra fuselage fuel tank, the outer compartments were use to house the displaced compressed-air tanks, plus a couple of oxygen cylinders.
Only the late XIVe, F.R.XIVe, and XVIII had completely plain outer wing surfaces, since there were never any plans to fit the .303" guns in them.
The lack of stiffeners on 5531's wings could be because the airframe dated from before the modification; the British government rather messed the Turkish government about, and kept them waiting, for months, for their deliveries, and the Vb(trop) aircraft came from Middle East stocks, held in the Mediterranean area. They were generally in poor condition, apparently, so could have been quite ancient.
I guess I should have done a bit of checking, first, instead of barreling in, playing the smart-Alec know-all; sorry.
Edgar
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Posted: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 - 12:44 PM UTC
Those are ready to primer.



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Posted: Sunday, January 29, 2012 - 09:14 PM UTC
Progress pictures.






atoplu
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Posted: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - 12:08 PM UTC
Almost done after the few touches.










atoplu
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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 12:15 AM UTC
Models are completed.











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Posted: Thursday, February 02, 2012 - 01:34 AM UTC

Good work as usual. But the yellow one beats the other..


Ellerine sağlık..
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