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Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
WNW UK customs charges
Neomega
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England - East Midlands, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 08:14 AM UTC
Hi.

Apparently my WNW Fe-2b has arrived in the UK. I know this because I am being asked to pay over £71 in duties, plus £8 for the post office to take it off me before it is delivered.

Has anyone else had this happen? At this price, that will be the last one I ever get!

Gordon.
mtnflyer
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 08:30 AM UTC
WNW ships everything to my address without charge, and I've never paid any kind of duty. Right now, I have 10 WNW examples in the stash.

Sounds like there's a criminal element somewhere in your system. Perhaps if you wrote a letter to your local ombudsman. It worked for me once, on a different sort of government raping.
DaveCox
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 09:19 AM UTC

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Hi.

Apparently my WNW Fe-2b has arrived in the UK. I know this because I am being asked to pay over £71 in duties, plus £8 for the post office to take it off me before it is delivered.

Has anyone else had this happen? At this price, that will be the last one I ever get!

Gordon.



Could be that WNW used the wrong tariff number on the customs form. I've bought models from overseas without any problem. The correct tariff is 9503 0030 00 (reduced size scale models containing plastic) which carries a 0% rating.
Kornbeef
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England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, February 27, 2012 - 10:17 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi.

Apparently my WNW Fe-2b has arrived in the UK. I know this because I am being asked to pay over £71 in duties, plus £8 for the post office to take it off me before it is delivered.

Has anyone else had this happen? At this price, that will be the last one I ever get!

Gordon.

£71 or £17? should be VAT + Parcelfarces cut supposedly administration costs for processing the VAT.

Yes this only happens with WNW to the best of my knowledge, I waited 6 weeks for my Rumpler, and had to pay for it. I think from now on I'll take the Hannants option and pay over the odds but get it in 2 days instead.


Keith
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Posted: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 - 01:59 AM UTC
The UK position is this:

* Plastic kits are not subject to import duty but they are subject to VAT. The current threshold for this is, I believe, £15.
* VAT is collected by Parcel Force, who charge £8 for this service.
* The Postal Services Act prevents them refusing to hand over your parcel until you've paid that fee. You can legitimately ask that they give you your goods and invoice you separately for the fee. However, the fee is legitimate, so if they do remember to invoice you, you must pay it.

Many people in the UK object to this fee. It's certainly unwelcome, and whether you've agreed to pay it is debatable, but this position overlooks a couple of crucial points:
1 VAT is a legal obligation and it has to be paid somehow.
2 Parcel Force's fee seems like money for jam, but it's a lot cheaper than arranging customs clearance yourself.
3 if we somehow, collectively, get it overturned, it will only be replaced by some other process that produces equal amounts of hassle and/or cost. This is inevitable because, well, see point 1.

You can sometimes ask for the value of your goods to be under-declared in an effort to avoid VAT. Some sellers even do this without your asking. WNW won't do it. I would strongly urge caution:
i) it's fraud.
ii) VAT is charged on both the goods and the postage cost, so you can't guarantee a win. (This is, incidentally, iniquitous. I have serious conceptual problems with VAT anyway, but to charge it on a service that was paid for overseas is beyond wrong. Still, it's what we're stuck with.)
Your better bet here is to hope that your parcel won't be inspected. Not all are, and I've heard that the dip sample is as low as 10%. The best way to avoid being sampled is not to order enough kits to fill a car boot - ask me how I know this!

As for the amount - VAT is 20% so £71 implies that your kit cost over £350. So I suspect:
I a misprint by Parcel Force, or the handwritten equivalent;
II an erroneous code, as Dave Cox suggests; or
III a misprint by WNW. I've had this happen with deliveries from other overseas sources - the label carelessly filled in meant that the value was horribly over-declared.
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