Dave was at the Royal International Air Tattoo this year. Luckily for us he brought his camera!
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Royal International Air Tattoo 2013raypalmer
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Posted: Friday, July 26, 2013 - 03:31 PM UTC
Posted: Saturday, July 27, 2013 - 03:53 AM UTC
Had a great day out and cant wait until next year ..
Hope you like the pics everyone
Thankyou to Richard for putting this together
Hope you like the pics everyone
Thankyou to Richard for putting this together
cinzano
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Posted: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 01:35 PM UTC
This isn't about the airshow but is a general musing (nah that's not right. Its a bit of whinging).
So I notice the B-17G. Of course its done up in early USAAF livery, total anachronism then it gets me to thinking about all the preserved aircraft that different groups keep in flying condition. Many of them (well ones in the US at any rate) do as much 'hot-rodding' in their "restorations" as preservation. (Electroplated parts, non- period color schemes etc...) If you were going to the trouble and expense to restore warbirds, why not get it right?!
Give Duxford and Silverhill their due. When they restore a plane they do it right!!!
Cheers,
Fred
So I notice the B-17G. Of course its done up in early USAAF livery, total anachronism then it gets me to thinking about all the preserved aircraft that different groups keep in flying condition. Many of them (well ones in the US at any rate) do as much 'hot-rodding' in their "restorations" as preservation. (Electroplated parts, non- period color schemes etc...) If you were going to the trouble and expense to restore warbirds, why not get it right?!
Give Duxford and Silverhill their due. When they restore a plane they do it right!!!
Cheers,
Fred
Jessie_C
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Posted: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 02:06 PM UTC
For some restorers it's a case of Did Not Do The Research, for others it's Rule of Cool and still others it's a case of I Have Money.
Then there are the ones who pay proper attention to history.
Then there are the ones who pay proper attention to history.
cinzano
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 12:59 PM UTC
Yeah, Jessie, you're right. That's OK with critiquing fiction, but it really drives me to distraction when I see so much money lavished on warbirds but not in restoring them.
At least Air Racers make no pretense.
Cheers,
Fred
At least Air Racers make no pretense.
Cheers,
Fred
raypalmer
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 01:09 PM UTC
The Alberta Aviation Museum has a hurri that's..... insane. Makes me crazy...
cinzano
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 01:22 PM UTC
Somewhere there's an A-20G looking for its Hamilton Standard.
Cheers,
Fred
Cheers,
Fred
Jessie_C
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 01:57 PM UTC
That's a proper airscrew for a Hurricane XII, but that's far from a proper paint job. It looks like they were working from two completely different sets of paint plans, and the guy who painted the top wasn't talking to the guy who painted the undersides.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 02:18 PM UTC
That 'thing' must be new. Wasn't there in the spring when I was noseing around.
raypalmer
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Posted: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 02:51 PM UTC
The guns without farings are plain wrong. And I've read first hand accounts that confirm the underside blue is paint stolen from a 1970's gulf porsche race car, not the RAF.
I could understand removing the farings if they were depicting an aircraft undergoing service on its armament, but this is clearly not the case.
Moreover I strongly suspect no hurricane ever sported yellow leading edge identifiers. This seems like a total anachronism.
I could understand removing the farings if they were depicting an aircraft undergoing service on its armament, but this is clearly not the case.
Moreover I strongly suspect no hurricane ever sported yellow leading edge identifiers. This seems like a total anachronism.
Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 07:17 AM UTC
great ... this has turnd into a debate about aircraft restoration
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Posted: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 - 07:44 AM UTC
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The guns without farings are plain wrong.
The IIB had those outboard guns, and the muzzles did protrude from the leading edge, but not by so much as those ones seem to.
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Moreover I strongly suspect no hurricane ever sported yellow leading edge identifiers. This seems like a total anachronism.
There's a fair body of evidence that Hurricane IIs in temperate day fighter scheme wore the yellow leading edges; it's just that more of them were done in SEA, desert or RN schemes which didn't have the yellow. I'm also very sceptical that any home service RCAF Hurris ever had them. This paint job is incredibly amateurish.
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great ... this has turnd into a debate about aircraft restoration
We get passionate about seeing our favourite things displayed properly We also get livid when it's done incorrectly.