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Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
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Camel / Dr.I Storyboard Diorama
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 03:19 AM UTC
The secret here is to take your time to do these steps properly,the effort that you put in here will determine the success of the outcome.
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 03:29 AM UTC
Nother pic
dolly15
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Posted: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 07:32 AM UTC
Just what I am looking for a German aircraft wreck trailer.This will make a nice stable platform to build the Camel model on.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 12:56 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:11 AM UTC
This is actually from a 1/18th metal cast kit.As I build it I will be checking often to see if a 1/16th Camel would look good on it otherwise I may have to modify the chassis to be longer and wider.
CaptnTommy
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 01:35 AM UTC
Great wall, nice the way you are weathering it even at this stage. Don't forget some birds in the rafters.
Captn Tommy
Captn Tommy
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 02:02 AM UTC
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Great wall, nice the way you are weathering it even at this stage. Don't forget some birds in the rafters.
Captn Tommy
Actually I have put birds in my dioramas before one was a barn owl and the other was a barn owl nest with pooh only !
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 02:04 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 02:15 AM UTC
The pooh only !
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 02:23 AM UTC
I realy like the owl. Did you made it yourself?
When building in 1/16 scale, is there backmarket for in this case animals or figures?
Admire the work on the openstructure planes, makes me want to sell all my trains in 1/87 and start all over in 1/16 building planes and automobiles.
Regards,
Robert Jan
When building in 1/16 scale, is there backmarket for in this case animals or figures?
Admire the work on the openstructure planes, makes me want to sell all my trains in 1/87 and start all over in 1/16 building planes and automobiles.
Regards,
Robert Jan
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 05:28 AM UTC
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I realy like the owl. Did you made it yourself?
When building in 1/16 scale, is there backmarket for in this case animals or figures? Admire the work on the openstructure planes, makes me want to sell all my trains in 1/87 and start all over in 1/16 building planes and automobiles.
Regards,
Robert Jan
Hi Robert ! because I consider the storyline the most important aspect of my diorama I don't really consider scratchbuilding or not my main consideration.My philosophy is "buy what you can and build what you must". When I first started building in 1/16th scale about 14 years ago there was very little available but recently the armor guys have been building more and more in this scale so it is now a lot better than it used to be.Animals ,tools etc.. come in all sizes in real life so that is not a problem.Figures used to be a problem but you can always learn to easily modify those into the positions you want.Open structure aircraft are available from Model Expo and now Hasagawa has a Camel in 1/16th.There is also a good selection of autos and of course a 1/16th Ford chassis can be modified as you please.Hope I have been some help.Cheers! John.
SpeedyJ
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 05:36 AM UTC
Just about 2 months ago I joined for reason to show my DS19 1/16.
But when I came up to your thread with the Planes, my trains were already in their boxes, as a matter of speaking.
I enjoy the big scale. The research you do and others on various forums gathered here is cool.
I will think some more, meantime a build is going on.
Regards from the Netherlands,
Robert Jan
But when I came up to your thread with the Planes, my trains were already in their boxes, as a matter of speaking.
I enjoy the big scale. The research you do and others on various forums gathered here is cool.
I will think some more, meantime a build is going on.
Regards from the Netherlands,
Robert Jan
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 05:46 AM UTC
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Just about 2 months ago I joined for reason to show my DS19 1/16.
But when I came up to your thread with the Planes, my trains were already in their boxes, as a matter of speaking.
I enjoy the big scale. The research you do and others on various forums gathered here is cool.
I will think some more, meantime a build is going on.
Regards from the Netherlands,
Robert Jan
I do trains too but in G scale in the "Old West" style .
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 05:56 AM UTC
Here is one I have been working on recently
I know,I know,won't happen again I promise.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - 06:38 AM UTC
I will be hanging these Fokker EV wings on the hangar wall and marking them "Experiment".Small wings etc.. were often built for wind tunnel purposes ,in fact whole airplanes were sometimes modeled for this purpose.Whatever,this will go a long way in helping me to explain to the viewer what is going on.Two wings were supplied with this single wing airplane by the manufacturer .They look the same but I suspect it has something to do with the camber or dihedral.Will check it out !
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, October 25, 2013 - 02:06 AM UTC
For those who may be interested I have opened up a new thread on Shadowboxes and Storyboard dioramas over on the Armor section of this website.
JackFlash
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Posted: Friday, October 25, 2013 - 04:06 AM UTC
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I will be hanging these Fokker EV wings on the hangar wall and marking them "Experiment".Small wings etc.. were often built for wind tunnel purposes ,in fact whole airplanes were sometimes modeled for this purpose.Whatever,this will go a long way in helping me to explain to the viewer what is going on.Two wings were supplied with this single wing airplane by the manufacturer .They look the same but I suspect it has something to do with the camber or dihedral.Will check it out !
Originally the #2 wing had a surface that was "cupped". Small stressed areas between the formers and ribs that were "dished" and after some comments on line Eduard decided to just smooth it over rather than delete it from the tree.
Eduard review here
dolly15
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Posted: Friday, October 25, 2013 - 05:42 AM UTC
Thank you Stephen for that info,too bad they didn't think of putting a note in the box to that effect.
Nice build review though.Cheers! John.
Nice build review though.Cheers! John.
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 01:12 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, October 26, 2013 - 02:03 AM UTC
The Fokker E.V was the last production fighter of the German Air Service in 1918. It had a troubled start with the problem being traced to poor workmanship in the wing manufacturing shops of the Fokker subsidiary. When gussets and webs were installed correctly, the plywood covered wing of the E.V met and exceeded required specifications. Redesignated as the D.VIII, ( some examples still labeled as E.V) the type soldiered on even after the end of World War One. It was fleshing out infant air forces in other countries, outwardly they were indistinguishable except by their stenciled serial numbers. The aircraft was nicknamed the ‘Razor’, due to its head-on profile, but in 1918 it was the cutting edge. It just came too late to be useful in combat.
From Stephen Lawson's kit review.
In view of the above I could re-title my shadowbox "The Contenders 1917" or "The Contenders" Schwerin 1917.
From Stephen Lawson's kit review.
In view of the above I could re-title my shadowbox "The Contenders 1917" or "The Contenders" Schwerin 1917.
dolly15
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Posted: Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 12:14 AM UTC
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The Fokker E.V was the last production fighter of the German Air Service in 1918. It had a troubled start with the problem being traced to poor workmanship in the wing manufacturing shops of the Fokker subsidiary. When gussets and webs were installed correctly, the plywood covered wing of the E.V met and exceeded required specifications. Redesignated as the D.VIII, ( some examples still labeled as E.V) the type soldiered on even after the end of World War One. It was fleshing out infant air forces in other countries, outwardly they were indistinguishable except by their stenciled serial numbers. The aircraft was nicknamed the ‘Razor’, due to its head-on profile, but in 1918 it was the cutting edge. It just came too late to be useful in combat.
From Stephen Lawson's kit review.
In view of the above I could re-title my shadowbox "The Contenders 1917" or "The Contenders" Schwerin 1917.
Further to the above.I used the terminology "The Contenders"because it is a term often associated with the sport of boxing and we are dealing here with fighter aircraft,so it seemed appropriate in this context.
dolly15
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Posted: Monday, October 28, 2013 - 08:36 AM UTC
I will be starting this build by securing one of the gear's wheels to the flat bed of the trailer.First I will build the flatbed part of the trailer, then secure the wheel.By starting this way I can remove and put back the aircraft at any time during the build.It then will be secured by the tail skid and finally the other wheel at the end of the build.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 08:25 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 11:25 PM UTC
The soft rubber is very hard to work with.
dolly15
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Posted: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 - 11:42 PM UTC
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