Hey all,
I wanted opinions on effective colors to wash the panel lines on very dark schemes such as overall GSB or Gloss Black. I have heard of people using greys, aluminum, or even yellow once. I am looking for a way to make them noticible but not necessarily pop out like neon, I would like more detail to the eye than a big dark blue or black silhouette. Something to subtly compliment panel shading.
I was thinking of going with a lightened shade of the base like mixing white and GSB 50/50, or even using intermediate blue. Opinions or personal tastes from your experiences?
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Opinions wanted on panel lines
Posted: Friday, February 07, 2014 - 04:01 AM UTC
Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2014 - 05:05 AM UTC
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Hey all,
I wanted opinions on effective colors to wash the panel lines on very dark schemes such as overall GSB or Gloss Black. I have heard of people using greys, aluminum, or even yellow once. I am looking for a way to make them noticible but not necessarily pop out like neon, I would like more detail to the eye than a big dark blue or black silhouette. Something to subtly compliment panel shading.
I was thinking of going with a lightened shade of the base like mixing white and GSB 50/50, or even using intermediate blue. Opinions or personal tastes from your experiences?
Paul,
I've experimented with this exact issue on both my all black 1/48 scale P-61 & a F4U-1A. I've settled on a medium Gray as it's not overly bright, but does bring out the recessed panel lines, etc. The darker you go, the less the effect becomes. You could actually try black if you're going to be weathering and fading the tone of the GSB.
I did a little experimenting, with direct light, and the panel lines do reflect the light as a bright color, so to some degree it's a realistic approach.
Damian brought up the idea of using black/red, although I've never tried it as yet.
Here's two pictures of my P-61. While not perfect, the medium gray wash is effective both in highlighting the recessed lines, and breaking up those large areas of black.
Joel
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2014 - 06:52 AM UTC
i like that joel, looks really good.
paul
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Posted: Friday, February 07, 2014 - 09:28 AM UTC
I still swear by a pencil. Get yourself a technical pencil with, say, a 0.3mm lead, in 3B grade or darker, and you can work wonders. It's also much more controllable than a wash and it can be erased easily if you make a mistake. The other nice feature is that the lines are darker than, say, a medium grey wash, but they gleam a little and will show up when the light catches them right.
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, February 09, 2014 - 03:22 AM UTC
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I still swear by a pencil. Get yourself a technical pencil with, say, a 0.3mm lead, in 3B grade or darker, and you can work wonders. It's also much more controllable than a wash and it can be erased easily if you make a mistake. The other nice feature is that the lines are darker than, say, a medium grey wash, but they gleam a little and will show up when the light catches them right.
Sean,
Thanks for that tip. It's that elusive gleam that I'm really interested in. If one looks close enough at pictures with panel lines in the sunlight, there is always some areas that reflect light off of the ridges. It's been nearly impossible to duplicate that reflection with any color wash.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, February 09, 2014 - 12:15 PM UTC
with all of my dark finished aircraft I use titanium white or paynes grey oil paint thay has been heavily thinned...like 99:1 thin. I apply it as a pin wash and let it run its course then clean up any goofs with a q-tip. It isn't too stark and imparts just the right amount of contrast to the dark finishes. As always, your mileage may vary so test it first. "Q"
I used the same technique on this Marauder after rescribing...
I used the same technique on this Marauder after rescribing...