Cold War (1950-1974)
Discuss the aircraft modeling subjects during the Cold War period.
Discuss the aircraft modeling subjects during the Cold War period.
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F-104 question
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 01:05 PM UTC
Can the 1/72 Hasegawa F-104J/CF-104 be built into a USAF version?
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 02:18 PM UTC
Never mind, I found the info I needed.
stooge
South Australia, Australia
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 09:49 PM UTC
And what was the answer?
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2014 - 11:45 PM UTC
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And what was the answer?
Was told the following:
The engines and avionics are different internally but externally the J has a larger rudder than the C which is very noticeable.
stooge
South Australia, Australia
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Posted: Thursday, August 21, 2014 - 08:33 PM UTC
I see.
F104 C
F104 J
F104 C
F104 J
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 12:28 AM UTC
Yep, that rudder on the J goes way beyond the engine can, great pictures. I will eventually make it a Canadian 104.
Jessie_C
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2014 - 01:26 PM UTC
A not so visible difference is the main wheels. The -A and -C had a nearly solid disc wheel with a ring of small holes near the rim. All other variants based on the -G had a spoked wheel.
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 03:55 AM UTC
Thanks for the great pictures and added info Jessie. This Hasegawa kit has the spoked rims so it's correct for the Canadian version. I will be doing this one in Canadian NMF courtesy of Alclad.
Jessie_C
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2014 - 12:39 PM UTC
Oh, and one more little difference that even many model companies miss. The inboard horizontal fin of the tip tank is longer than the outboard fin on the -G and its variants. The -A and -C fins matched the outboard fin.
plastickjunkie
Florida, United States
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 07:21 AM UTC
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Oh, and one more little difference that even many model companies miss. The inboard horizontal fin of the tip tank is longer than the outboard fin on the -G and its variants. The -A and -C fins matched the outboard fin.
Looks like Hasegawa missed on this detail, thanks Jessie for the help! This is an easy fix, just a matter of a little sanding the tips a bit.
Jessie_C
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Posted: Sunday, August 31, 2014 - 07:48 AM UTC
CF-104s had the long fins on their tip tanks so you're okay with what the kit gave you.