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What happened to all the ads?
drabslab
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 03:27 AM UTC

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I am only human


Thank God we all are only that, but also nothing less than that.

I hope we all learned something from this exchange and that the contributions give you constructive feedback and maybe lead to some bright idea.

Don't hesitate to ask the wider Kitmaker crowd for their opinion, one never knows where a good idea comes from. Heck even I had a few in my long life


Merlin
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 03:38 AM UTC
Hi all

What a mess!

I won't comment on any of the personal interchanges - they belong in private emails and PMs.

So, I'll stay strictly with the ad-blocking issue.

I've not stepped in before on the subject of the infamous "ads-ad-blocker", because I'd never actually seen what was causing so much friction because, obviously, I enable the ads on my PC.

That was until this evening when I had to do an extra unexpected shift at Oxfam and took the opportunity (don't tell them! ) of checking out Aeroscale on a different set-up and.. lo and behold! - I was finally confronted by the ad-blocker screen.

"Great!" I thought Now I know what people are moaning about. So let's sort it. Except, the instruction on screen were, to use the technical term... bollocks - and, yes, it does look like phishing with its link.

"There is an easy way to turn off ad blocking for just this site. Simply click on your ad block icon in the upper right of your tool bar and then change "Enabled" text to "Disabled"."

There was no icon and nothing up front to turn off. I piddled about for a good quarter of an hour before giving up and deciding it was time to come home, but I simply couldn't figure out what was blocking Aeroscale on the PC at work.

So, despite Darren stating "...it should not be too difficult to learn how to switch aspects on or off as needed", it's really not always obvious at all and I totally sympathise with others having similar troubles.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 03:43 AM UTC
I do not know 'why in Firefox luckily i see only the advertising of the site and not those of google and do not bother me, in fact many are interesting apart from the continuous flashing that indeed a bit' bored and I understand that somewhere i $$$ must arrive, I agree that the way to block those who use ADB is a bit ' "violent" and certainly discourage and deter many users do not own "computer freak" and this is certainly a shame and a waste.

Loss that adds to my mind to users who are lost and for mé are a good number for the system to say the least outdated and complicated to post the photos, in fact Russ aka Kevlar06 writes " I'm not knowledgeable enough about the computer to post my work "and many others like him, but do not write or directly use other more 'easy forum and leave upload photos directly on the site without the limits of space,absurd nowadays (and attending many forums are now the majority), why personally find this anachronistic and stops me from paying the membership that if no 'I would pay gladly, in over so' you lose hundreds of useful information in the old posts that become meaningless having no more 'pictures.

my 2 cents ...
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 04:14 AM UTC
Hi all.

A quick demo for Google Chrome users:

Top RHS of screen has small red ABP (AdBlock Plus) Button


If it is red, it is enabled and ads are blocked for the site you are currently on. Left click the button and you get a drop-down window:

As you can see it says 'ENABLED"

Left click on the ENABLED message and it becomes DISABLED for the current site only, and the button goes grey:


Left click anywhere on the screen to close the drop-down menu.

I'm sure the procedure is similar for other browsers.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, D
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 04:19 AM UTC
Hi everyone.
As a subscriber I've totally ignored this thread because it hadn't applied to me.

I subscribed because I enjoy the community.

But I will tell you powers that be, that had I come to this site on that first day and run into such a scheme, you would never have had the chance to earn the few dollars a month that I pay. Nor would I have met the great people I converse with regularly.

We both would have lost.

Just my two cents.

Gaz
Merlin
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 04:44 AM UTC

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Hi all.

A quick demo for Google Chrome users:

Top RHS of screen has small red ABP (AdBlock Plus) Button


If it is red, it is enabled and ads are blocked for the site you are currently on. Left click the button and you get a drop-down window:

As you can see it says 'ENABLED"

Left click on the ENABLED message and it becomes DISABLED for the current site only, and the button goes grey:


Left click anywhere on the screen to close the drop-down menu.

I'm sure the procedure is similar for other browsers.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, D


H Damian

I wish it had been that easy on the system at work. There was no Ad Block icon - and a hunt through installed programmes didn't give a clue as to what was blocking Aeroscale, but something was still throwing up the message screen. So I sypathise with the frustration voiced by others on that account.

All the best

Rowan
Robbd01
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 05:14 AM UTC

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Hi all.

A quick demo for Google Chrome users:

Top RHS of screen has small red ABP (AdBlock Plus) Button


If it is red, it is enabled and ads are blocked for the site you are currently on. Left click the button and you get a drop-down window:

As you can see it says 'ENABLED"

Left click on the ENABLED message and it becomes DISABLED for the current site only, and the button goes grey:


Left click anywhere on the screen to close the drop-down menu.

I'm sure the procedure is similar for other browsers.

Hope this helps.

Cheers, D


H Damian

I wish it had been that easy on the system at work. There was no Ad Block icon - and a hunt through installed programmes didn't give a clue as to what was blocking Aeroscale, but something was still throwing up the message screen. So I sypathise with the frustration voiced by others on that account.

All the best

Rowan


Most likely your work might have some web filtering ie Websense, Cisco WSA. Being in IT at work I have access to our Webfilter (and IDS) and 'whitelisted' Kitmaker (and its other sites) (Sshhh) which helped a litte. Also I am a Kitmaker subscriber which also helps. Besides ads being annoying they have been known for sources of malware and other strange things - usually in the form of exploits. Java scripts are especially scrutinized.

Just my observation
Now I need to get back to starting more unfinished model projects - (can someone please get 'Unfinished Business 2017 campaign started? Thank you)

Cheers

Merlin
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 01:24 PM UTC
Hi Robbie

I've booted up another PC to see what happens and the "ad-block-blocker" screen pops up. Again there's no icon to enable/disable and nothing obvious in the tools menu etc.

Running task manager reveals AdBlock Plus Engine for IE running in the background, so I can turn it off entirely that way, but apparently not on a site by site basis. That's fine for me, but some people might not want to.

I obviously support Jim striving to ensure the ads are visible (for anyone who hasn't, it's worth watching his video) - but, playing Devil's advocate, I can also understand why some people are struggling to enable the ads on Kitmaker, because the on-screen instructions don't help in every instance.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 02:25 PM UTC

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Hi Robbie

I've booted up another PC to see what happens and the "ad-block-blocker" screen pops up. Again there's no icon to enable/disable and nothing obvious in the tools menu etc.

Running task manager reveals AdBlock Plus Engine for IE running in the background, so I can turn it off entirely that way, but apparently not on a site by site basis. That's fine for me, but some people might not want to.

I obviously support Jim striving to ensure the ads are visible (for anyone who hasn't, it's worth watching his video) - but, playing Devil's advocate, I can also understand why some people are struggling to enable the ads on Kitmaker, because the on-screen instructions don't help in every instance.

All the best

Rowan


At the end, the easiest solution is what I (and I suspect many others) have done for many years without any problem and even without ever thinking about it until the issue was raised here in the forum:

Just accept that this site needs adds to prosper and don't complicate life with an add blocker.

After all, we watch television with adds and product placing, we read magazines with adds, we drive on roads with publicity boards, we watch movies with product placing, we look at sports where advertising is in our face all the time.

So why is this such a big deal for kitmaker?
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Posted: Thursday, January 05, 2017 - 10:10 PM UTC

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Hi Robbie

I've booted up another PC to see what happens and the "ad-block-blocker" screen pops up. Again there's no icon to enable/disable and nothing obvious in the tools menu etc.

Running task manager reveals AdBlock Plus Engine for IE running in the background, so I can turn it off entirely that way, but apparently not on a site by site basis. That's fine for me, but some people might not want to.

I obviously support Jim striving to ensure the ads are visible (for anyone who hasn't, it's worth watching his video) - but, playing Devil's advocate, I can also understand why some people are struggling to enable the ads on Kitmaker, because the on-screen instructions don't help in every instance.

All the best

Rowan


Rowan if you are using it in IE I am unsure of how it is configured. IE was retired a year ago as a supported Microsoft product.

I did however just install it on my Edge browser and while you have to go to the upper right (...) area there is a listing for the module and the same screens that Damian showed here for Chrome. I would suggest that since IE isn't even supported as an application anymore you might want to upgrade to the current browser.

Also someone in this topic mentioned malware in ads. Sorry Malware has to be installed or executed. If you click on ads they could lead to attempts to fool you into installing malware (Adobe Flash updates, etc.) but just seeing an ad on a site can't give you malware. Just wanted to clear that up.

Thanks,
Jim
Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 04:31 AM UTC
Hi Jim

Needless to say, I don't run Ad-Block at home on Kitmaker. But I have kept I.E. going on my old PC so that I can best mimic some of the reports coming in to me. In fact, Oxfam still use exclusively I.E. for some of their stuff (most uses Chrome), although I expect these exceptions will transfer to Edge in due course.

Interestingly, Edge still gives the option to open as I.E., so whether Microsoft dare ditch the old warhorse entirely yet is a fun question - although it is definitely becoming "flakey" after the latest Windows upgrades. The big relief for me is that Edge is finally running full-screen video reliably without freezing - a "given" on all the other browsers I run to keep up with what our members might be seeing. For all that, going back to I.E. after a long lay-off, I realise again just how good the functionality is/was! (If it ain't broke?...)

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 04:40 AM UTC

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Hi Jim

Needless to say, I don't run Ad-Block at home on Kitmaker. But I have kept I.E. going on my old PC so that I can best mimic some of the reports coming in to me. In fact, Oxfam still use exclusively I.E. for some of their stuff (most uses Chrome), although I expect these exceptions will transfer to Edge in due course.

Interestingly, Edge still gives the option to open as I.E., so whether Microsoft dare ditch the old warhorse entirely yet is a fun question - although it is definitely becoming "flakey" after the latest Windows upgrades. The big relief for me is that Edge is finally running full-screen video reliably without freezing - a "given" on all the other browsers I run to keep up with what our members might be seeing. For all that, going back to I.E. after a long lay-off, I realise again just how good the functionality is/was! (If it ain't broke?...)

All the best

Rowan


http://imgur.com/gallery/fuaz2ZZ

Merlin
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Posted: Saturday, January 07, 2017 - 12:37 PM UTC

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Hi Jim

Needless to say, I don't run Ad-Block at home on Kitmaker. But I have kept I.E. going on my old PC so that I can best mimic some of the reports coming in to me. In fact, Oxfam still use exclusively I.E. for some of their stuff (most uses Chrome), although I expect these exceptions will transfer to Edge in due course.

Interestingly, Edge still gives the option to open as I.E., so whether Microsoft dare ditch the old warhorse entirely yet is a fun question - although it is definitely becoming "flakey" after the latest Windows upgrades. The big relief for me is that Edge is finally running full-screen video reliably without freezing - a "given" on all the other browsers I run to keep up with what our members might be seeing. For all that, going back to I.E. after a long lay-off, I realise again just how good the functionality is/was! (If it ain't broke?...)

All the best

Rowan


http://imgur.com/gallery/fuaz2ZZ



Hi Robbie

Those pesky meddling kids!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Friday, June 09, 2017 - 07:46 AM UTC
Ok I need help!
I am typing this on my IPad.
I have uninstalled ad blocker from my google Chrome (v 59.0.3071.86), previously I had tried disabling and whitelisting aeroscale and kit maker domains to no avail. Now even with NO Adblock and my browser history wiped I still get the F$&@ing "it looks like your using an ad blocker" pop up!

Now what?
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Posted: Friday, June 09, 2017 - 02:12 PM UTC
Can't explain that one. That shouldn't happen if you don't even have an Adblock installed. I didn't even know there was an Adblock for iPad. Ironically all our ads on the left of the site load to the far right (usually off screen) and the Google ads don't even load on iPad screens. So not much need to block them for us anyway.

You could try using an alternate domain that is not in any way cached. The site should be accessible via:

www.aeroscale.net
www.aeroscale.co.uk
aeroscale.kitmaker.net

Best wishes,
Jim
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