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SonOfAVet
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 08:57 AM UTC
Hello,
What color is generally used to preshade panel lines? Is it always black? Or does this color vary depending on the color of the base coat?

Thanks,
Sean
MadMeex
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:02 AM UTC
My preference is to use near black, in the shade the final color is. That is, use I use black if the the main color is a blue or a gray, a very dark brown for browns and tans, and black-green for green shades. That's just my preference, I don't know if it makes any real difference.

Mika
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 09:16 AM UTC
:-) Mmmmm, an interesting question, check out my article on this subject To pre-shade or not to pre-shade I now use white auto plastic primer and pre-shade with black. Doing it this way I have had success in the preshading showing through even dark uppersurface colours. I will be posting pics, soon that show this. I state my reasons for doing it the way I do, in the article. You could, however, get a nice affect by pre-shading using a slightly darker hue of the camo colour. This idea though would require you to plan where to start and stop each of the different colours. But having said that, you could, for example, pre-shade with darkened dark earth mix (talking Brit WW II dark earth/dark green camo), spray the straight dark earth, blending into the pre-shading. When dry, mask, pre-shade with a darkened dark green mix, spray and blend dark green and Bob's your uncle. Could be a good method, but would be quite involved. :-)
Mal
Merlin
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 11:23 AM UTC
Hi Sean

I normally use a very dark grey for most schemes, but it depends on the final colour. If you paint yellow over black or dark grey - it turns green... so in that case I pre-shade with dark brown.

Hope this helps

Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 11:39 AM UTC
I always use Tamiya Nato Black, even with German dark yellow world war 2 armour. Never really had a problem with it turning green? Even when basecoated straight away....mind you acrylics do dry really quickly.

Vinnie
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 12:06 PM UTC
Hi Vinnie

As you say, there's no problem with sand colours over black... but try it with Insignia Yellow ... you get a distinct green tinge.

Apparently, Olive Drab is ceated by mixing black and yellow pigment, which would explain the effect.

All the best

Rowan

mikeli125
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 10:34 PM UTC
the reason for the colour change Merlin, is due to the fact that NATO black is actually a very very dark green the colour has been discussed on some other forums I can only think that the insig yellow is highlighting the green part of the paint mix
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