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typhoonken
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Posted: Friday, May 06, 2016 - 09:29 AM UTC
Posted this a couple of weeks ago in P-47 Heaven.

Just looking for some critiques or discussion, not a pat on the back.



I've been a WWII student/ junkie/ fanatic since I was about 8, especially for the air war aspect. I always thought it was so cool when WWII pilots had their own ground crew and especially their own assigned aircraft.

When I read the Squadron/Signal "Aces of the Eighth" book I was shocked and disappointed that bailed out pilots and airmen were sometimes murdered when they landed in enemy territory. Lt./Capt./Maj. Quince L. Brown was one of these unfortunate men, and the picture of him in the cockpit of his assigned P-47 "Okie" has remained with me ever since. Also because he reminded me of an uncle I have.

I have gone back to Maj. Brown's story many times over the years, one of the first times was to try out aftermarket decals of his plane on a Monogram Razorback.

More than 40 years later I came back once again to his story. Now I have a good sized personal library of all things WWII, and the internet has uncovered and made available to me more pictures and accounts of Maj. Brown, his history, his plane, his squadron, his group, and his fellow pilots.

Fairly early on in my studies I knew of his two assigned aircraft:

P-47D-6 s/n 42-74753





and P-47D-22 s/n 42-25698.





BOTH referred to simply as "Okie."

Then, thanks to obscure yet refined internet searches, I turned up a MACR (Missing AirCrew Report) for the aircraft Maj. Brown was flying on the day he was shot down and subsequently murdered. This aircraft was:

P-47D-28 s/n 44-19569 (NO PHOTOS FOUND)

A bubbletop version. But what got me into thinking and P-47 model building mode was what was in the MACR. It said the now-shot down aircraft was nicknamed "Okie II." Not "III," nor just the next in succession of "Okies," but, strangely, "Okie II."

-- Could the three known P-47s Maj. Brown flew have been Okie I, II, and III?
-- Wouldn't that now make the NMF P-47, referred to and marked as Okie, actually Okie II?

It is also common that WWII pilots flew what was available. Maj Brown is known to have flown and used at least six other P-47s for some of his aerial victories. But I, stubbornly, wanted to find DEFINITIVELY if there were two or three positively assigned P-47s to Maj Brown.
Why am I doing this bit of truly unnecessary research? Simply for the enjoyment of research and to possibly have a unique trio of aircraft models

Here's what I came up with:

P-47D-6 s/n 42-74753 WZ*J

Latest markings information, including borderless fuselage and port wing upper insignia bars. Retention of red surround to lower stars and bars. Aircraft is depicted in very narrow date margin, late March 1944 after then Lt. Brown's latest victories but before the 78th FG began black and white checkerboard cowling. 150 gallon centerline drop tank IS appropriate.
1/48 Tamiya kit went together AMAZINGLY well.
Superscale decals beautiful







P-47D-22 s/n 42-25698 WZ*J

Hasegawa 1/48. Markings from various kit and aftermarket decals sheets.
The "Okie" logo under the port cockpit started as being non-existent, then to all black lettering, and finally having red backing or relief to the black lettering.
I found the logo was actually a common font, "Sweetheart" or "Sweetheart Script." I searched for weeks for rub-on transfers in this font with no luck. Short of having some custom made decals, (I didn't trust my still rather steady painting hand), I opted for the earliest version of no logo.
I wanted to use Alclad II Polished Aluminum. But I also wanted full markings and stenciling. I heard that Micro Set and Micro Sol for decaling would affect the Alclad finish. And the small stencil decals would have carrier film showing if I didn't use the Micros. I settled for Testors Aluminum Plate color, unpolished, so the NMF is pretty drab.






P-47D-28 s/n 44-19569 WZ*Z

A bit more story to this build.
At the time, April to August 1944, then Capt. Brown had been assigned his second Okie, flew both Okies depending on mission type, saw the first Okie recoded WZ*V, became the squadron's operations officer, and took leave July - August 1944. Returning from leave, Brown had been promoted to Major and MAY have been made his squadron's CO. Now here is where my research started to speculate:

Returning to his squadron and his NMF second aircraft Okie, Maj. Brown was then given(?) or assigned(?) the bubbletop P-47D-28. My questions are this:

--Was it INDEED assigned like the other two?
--Was he really the new CO?
--Previously, two other squadron COs flew assigned aircraft... AND THEY WERE MARKED WZ*Z, JUST LIKE THE NEW P-47D-28 Maj. Brown flies.
--Is this just a coincidence, or could it have been an unwritten squadron habit to give the CO a WZ*Z coded plane?

This kit:

Hasegawa 1/48 P-47D Bubbletop. The A/C serial number hasn't been photographed but a P-47 with a serial number only a few digits off was used for reference.
I should have used full lower D-Day stripes, as they were still used on P-47 as friendly identification. I tried using AeroMaster D-Day stripes but they were made for Tamiya kits. I thought I could nip and tuck here and there and get them to fit my Hasegawa kit. But... no. I struggled for three days with them before finally removing all lower wing striping. Fuselage striping was a must have. so I made sure these worked one way or another.








Again, nothing I have come up with will change history at all. I still have three P-47s I know Lt/Capt/Maj Quince L. Brown flew as a member of the 84th FS, 78th FG. And that was my ultimate goal. Unless I decide to do the other six he's been linked to.

Ken











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Posted: Friday, May 13, 2016 - 08:11 PM UTC
Ken,
I read your monograph on Lt./Capt./Maj. Quince L. Brown, and found it to be a fascinating read. Thanks so much for sharing that small segment of history with us.

As for your 3 P-47 builds, they're all superbly built, and finished. The Neutral Gray looks somewhat darkish on the 1st Jug, but there are so many variables in play from how you took the pictures, to how the server duplicated them, that it's just a non-issue for me.

Your concerns about flash on Alcad II Aluminum, I've never had that issue, and Micro Set & Sol works just fine with it. If you have concerns, just use Testor's clear Metalizer sealer, which I always do over the decals on a NMF.

Joel
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