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F-111 armament
OLDCORPS
Florida, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2004 - 02:49 PM UTC
Were they ever loaded up for air-to-air only? I'd like to build an old 1/72 scale kit with AIM-9's on it.
Sabot
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2004 - 04:24 PM UTC
I could be mistaken, but I think the old Monogram one came with sidewinders that mounted on the portion of the wing that didn't rotate.
warlock0322
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2004 - 09:41 PM UTC
Usually and I am just throwing this one out here for ya. A plane like the F-111 that is primarily used as and air to ground bird isn't loaded with just air to air loads.
With that said. It isn't at all out of the norm to see such planes with an air to air missle or two hanging from the wings. If the load/ mission permitted. They were usually included in the FRAG for self defense puposes. Also depending on if the weight of the load permitted too.
The only real true dogfighter that I can think of off the top of my head of the modern day was the F-14. As time has progressed though even this plane has been seen with Bombs hanging from her wings.
I don't know if you have seen these photos but I'll throw a link at ya to take a look at. Some pics actually show Sidewinders hanging from her.
http://www.combatindex.com/hardware/detail/air/f-111.html
hope this helps ya out.
Paul
With that said. It isn't at all out of the norm to see such planes with an air to air missle or two hanging from the wings. If the load/ mission permitted. They were usually included in the FRAG for self defense puposes. Also depending on if the weight of the load permitted too.
The only real true dogfighter that I can think of off the top of my head of the modern day was the F-14. As time has progressed though even this plane has been seen with Bombs hanging from her wings.
I don't know if you have seen these photos but I'll throw a link at ya to take a look at. Some pics actually show Sidewinders hanging from her.
http://www.combatindex.com/hardware/detail/air/f-111.html
hope this helps ya out.
Paul
BlueBear
Idaho, United States
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Posted: Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:05 PM UTC
Until they consolidated the 'Vark force down at Cannon AFB just before withdrawing them from service, they had a wing of them over here, just down the freeway at Mountain Home AFB. 'Varks were more or less dedicated mud movers. You could stick 4 loaded MERS under the things wings, and it would just shrug it on like a light jacket over your shoulders. F-111's could mount a Vulcan cannon in its internal weapons bay, but they very seldom did---most often useing the space for extra fuel cells. It seems like I do remember seeing Sidewinders mounted on the internal swiveling wing stations in a single rail mount ala an F-15 twin rail mount above a MER, but I don't have any hard verification I can give you.
Try getting ahold of a Hasagawa F-111 instruction sheet, and check its weapons load-out matrix. They're usually pretty accurate---I found a few goofs on their F-18's matrix though.
Try getting ahold of a Hasagawa F-111 instruction sheet, and check its weapons load-out matrix. They're usually pretty accurate---I found a few goofs on their F-18's matrix though.
AJLaFleche
Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 01:35 AM UTC
Given that the ultimate ground pounder, the A-10 regualraly carries a couple AIM-9's for self defence, it would make perfect sense for the F-111 to carry a pair, though I don't think this bird would have been tricked out in all air to air configuration.
Part-timer
Georgia, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 03:20 AM UTC
You could try to convert it to an F-111B, the Navy's aborted interceptor for which the Phoenix missle and AWG-9 radar were originally developed. Of course, the runaway weight gain of that airplane and the corresponding increase in cost (and lack of handling) led to its cancelation. Gruman picked up the pieces and created the F-14.
kkoori
Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 - 01:08 AM UTC
I've personally seen Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) F-111's carrying up to four AIM-9's on the tarmac with some mudmoving ordnance.
I was flying in/out of that particular Air Force base and seeing the Pigs lined up like that with AAM's I went "whoah, that ain't something I see everyday" - normally you see them packed up with Slicks, retarded bombs, Harpoons and GBU's.
BTW, our RAAF is the sole user of the F-111 these days. . . and here's to many more years of faithful service by this remarkable aircraft
I was flying in/out of that particular Air Force base and seeing the Pigs lined up like that with AAM's I went "whoah, that ain't something I see everyday" - normally you see them packed up with Slicks, retarded bombs, Harpoons and GBU's.
BTW, our RAAF is the sole user of the F-111 these days. . . and here's to many more years of faithful service by this remarkable aircraft