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Does someone knows the color of this MH-53m
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Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 - 05:34 PM UTC
Hi everyone, this is a MH-53M Pavelow IV. I'd like to know what the color could be?

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Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 - 06:55 PM UTC
The color is called AFSOC (Air Force Special Operations Command) Gray. Testors Model Master Gunship Gray (FS36118) is very close to it.

ubisuck
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Posted: Friday, October 27, 2017 - 08:38 PM UTC

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The color is called AFSOC (Air Force Special Operations Command) Gray. Testors Model Master Gunship Gray (FS36118) is very close to it.


Thank you Gino, your knowledge is amazing ;-)
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Posted: Sunday, October 29, 2017 - 07:43 PM UTC

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Thank you Gino, your knowledge is amazing ;-)


Yup, a lot of useless, trivial BS, as my wife calls it. Ask me the name of someone I met 5 minutes ago or where I left my keys and I draw a total blank.
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2017 - 01:22 PM UTC

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Yup, a lot of useless, trivial BS, as my wife calls it.


Trivial? In the grand scheme of things maybe but still quite impressive.

I have built one of those beauties in 1/48 scale using the REVELL CH-53 as basis and with a Cobra Company set for the special parts.

Unfortunately, the A/C is in my queen hangar now because it has proven impossible to find proper decals for it. The Choppers galore set that Gino recmmended is out of produciton. The producer primise me that they would bring it back during 2017 but I haven't seen that happen yet.

:-H
ubisuck
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Posted: Sunday, November 19, 2017 - 05:17 PM UTC

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The color is called AFSOC (Air Force Special Operations Command) Gray. Testors Model Master Gunship Gray (FS36118) is very close to it.


Gino, could I use this color for a Little bird of the Night Stalkers 160th SOG regiment? If not, I imagine I have to go black?

And last question, I have the little bird just waiting for it's main coat, I'm wondering if someone, somewhere, is making decals for: 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) in 1/35?
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, November 19, 2017 - 05:44 PM UTC
No, for the Littebird, the Gunship Grey is way too light. You want to use flat black, then drybrush it with some dark grey/lightened black, etc. 160th SOAR Littlebirds are flat black, but fade very quickly to a dark, chalky black-gray color.

For decals, yes, Werner's Wings has a couple of 160th SOAR decal sets that include Littlebirds. An example:



Scroll down to the 1/35 Decals section: http://www.wernerswings.com/product.html
ubisuck
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Posted: Sunday, November 19, 2017 - 08:28 PM UTC
Thank you very much Gino
HeavyArty
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Posted: Sunday, November 19, 2017 - 09:36 PM UTC
No problem. Be sure to post some pics of the Littlebird as you get some paint and decals on it. Also, which kit is it?
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 02:53 PM UTC
Do you know if Tamiya XF69 would be useful for that Little Bird scheme?? Itīs lightened black, fading to grey.
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 01:47 AM UTC
Hi Gino

I'll undoubtedly only demonstrate my ignorance of this subject, but I ask anyway!

Is this particular machine Gunship Gray all over? There seems to be a wavy colour division on the rear of the fuselage. Maybe between Gunship Gray and Olive Drab? Is/was there a scheme that would feature that?

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 03:35 AM UTC

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Do you know if Tamiya XF69 would be useful for that Little Bird scheme?? Itīs lightened black, fading to grey.


Not sure as I don't use Tamiya paints, but it sounds like it should work well.


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Is this particular machine Gunship Gray all over? There seems to be a wavy colour division on the rear of the fuselage. Maybe between Gunship Gray and Olive Drab? Is/was there a scheme that would feature that?


Yes, it is overall AFSOC Gray w/o any other color on it. I think you are seeing either a shadow or a color shift due to the hot exhaust leaving a residue or discoloration on the side of the aircraft.
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 02:41 PM UTC
Cheers Gino

I'd love to see the same airframe from a different angle to figure out what's causing the illusion. That in itself would be worth including in a build.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 05:20 AM UTC

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No problem. Be sure to post some pics of the Littlebird as you get some paint and decals on it. Also, which kit is it?


Sorry Gino, cancer got in the way.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, September 26, 2019 - 06:11 AM UTC
Sorry to hear that. I hope you are doing better now and can get back to building.
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