Hi all,
Tossed this out on P-47 Heaven, our special interest group dedicated to the P-47.
Seems that when there are no posts within a year, the administrator can remove the site from the main menu. Which has happened in this case.
That said, I propose a group build to save our SIG!
Any P-47, any scale, in any form of completion. Let's get this back on the menu!
So far, there's Pasi (PasiAhopelto), Torsten (Blackwidow), Bob (Bigrip74) and myself (john41492) on board.
Let's save this special interest group!!!
Who else is in?
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Want to start or join a group build? This is where to start.
Want to start or join a group build? This is where to start.
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Propsal: SOSIG!
Posted: Monday, September 16, 2019 - 01:38 AM UTC
rochaped
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Posted: Monday, September 16, 2019 - 04:31 AM UTC
I’m in! Actually I started baby steps on the magnificent Bubbletop D from Tamiya. Nothing past first spray on cockpit color... is that OK John?
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Monday, September 16, 2019 - 01:13 PM UTC
John,
You probably ought to post a link to the P-47 forum thread.
Michael
You probably ought to post a link to the P-47 forum thread.
Michael
Posted: Monday, September 16, 2019 - 11:29 PM UTC
I'm prepared to join in, got 2 "Jugs" still in my stash (one of them should go to the Mighty Eigth Campaign).
See you there!
Peter
See you there!
Peter
Posted: Monday, September 16, 2019 - 11:30 PM UTC
Alright I'm in. I have an old Monogram Razorback kit that is about 75% complete. This should give incentive to finish it.
Thanks,
Don "Lakota"
Thanks,
Don "Lakota"
Posted: Tuesday, September 17, 2019 - 07:03 PM UTC
I see 6 in! Yay!
Michael, how do I go about linking the original?
Jon
Michael, how do I go about linking the original?
Jon
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MichaelSatin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 01:01 AM UTC
Use the "url" or "url=" buttons just below the box where you type in your reply message, copy the url of the link you want to use, and paste it in where it will say "url=". But now that I'm in P-47 Heaven, I've got you covered.
The official thread for this one is here.
Michael
The official thread for this one is here.
Michael
Bigrip74
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Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 08:43 AM UTC
QUESTION: for those with better knowledge!
I would like to know the differences between the following kits. Mainly how well does the parts fit together. And how well does after market stuff (cockpit, wheel wells) fit without a lot of shaving or cutting?
1. HASEGAWA 1/48 P-47D-25 THUNDERBOLT
2. Hasegawa 1/48 P-47D Razorback
3. TAMIYA 1/48 P47-D THUNDERBOLT
4. Tamiya 1:48 Republic P-47D Thunderbolt "BubbleTop"
5. Pro Modeller 1/48 P-47 N Thunderbolt
6. Academy 1:48 Republic P-47 D Thunderbolt
7. Monogram 1/48 P-47 Razorback
8. Revell 1/48 P-47 Razorback
(I know the last two are identical)
9. Monogram 1/48 P-47 D Bubble top.
Bob
I would like to know the differences between the following kits. Mainly how well does the parts fit together. And how well does after market stuff (cockpit, wheel wells) fit without a lot of shaving or cutting?
1. HASEGAWA 1/48 P-47D-25 THUNDERBOLT
2. Hasegawa 1/48 P-47D Razorback
3. TAMIYA 1/48 P47-D THUNDERBOLT
4. Tamiya 1:48 Republic P-47D Thunderbolt "BubbleTop"
5. Pro Modeller 1/48 P-47 N Thunderbolt
6. Academy 1:48 Republic P-47 D Thunderbolt
7. Monogram 1/48 P-47 Razorback
8. Revell 1/48 P-47 Razorback
(I know the last two are identical)
9. Monogram 1/48 P-47 D Bubble top.
Bob
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 11:32 AM UTC
My two cents? Stop after the first four.
The Hasegawa kits are pretty nice and have more variety. But the Tamiya kits are some of the first models that earned Tamiya their modern reputation. They are superbly engineered and go together like a breeze.
Michael
The Hasegawa kits are pretty nice and have more variety. But the Tamiya kits are some of the first models that earned Tamiya their modern reputation. They are superbly engineered and go together like a breeze.
Michael
SHAKY962
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Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 12:50 PM UTC
Bob,
I agree with Michael. Tamiya was the best option
JM
I agree with Michael. Tamiya was the best option
JM
Bigrip74
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Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 01:55 PM UTC
Michael and Jose, thanks for a really quick reply.
I purchased a 1/48 Hasegawa P-47D Bubbletop for $25.59 free shipping.
I am partial to the Razorback more than the NMF D, M, or N models.
I purchased a 1/48 Hasegawa P-47D Bubbletop for $25.59 free shipping.
I am partial to the Razorback more than the NMF D, M, or N models.
Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 05:56 PM UTC
Hi Bob,
Sorry for the late reply, but I know a bit about the P-47 kits out there. Though you've already purchased the Hasegawa kit, you need to know that the fit on the underside is not so good. You'll need to decide to putty the back or the front end. Either way, you're gonna lose some of the beautiful detail and have to replace.
And when I say putty, I mean a lot! I put about 2 grams onto my "-5" done in Don Gentile's bird (see it on builds on P-47 Heaven). I did 5 putty sessions, and re-scribed all the lost details, it turned out quite nice, but a lot of work. It's a good accurate rendition, though requires a bit of work.
In the future if you've extra cash, you get a Tamiya for 30 USD delivered, and you won't have any fit issues at all!
Otherwise, I could suggest Otaki's kit. This is often overlooked, but a very nice kit. The cockpit needs work, and the landing gear is less than banner. The kit on the whole for the cost is a good value.
The Monogram/Revell kits are the same. Molds were made in 1964 and it's a great kit! For today, if you're not gonna put a pilot in it, you'll need a cockpit, many are available (I really like the True Details one!). The engine can be built up, or one can get the TD R-2800 (a kit unto itself). Many say the tail is bit narrow, but as long as someone at a model show doesn't put their Tamiya one next to yours's you'll never notice. This is my go to kit for introducing new modelers to the world of WWII models. The fit is good, and if you know how to assemble the wings, you get no gap at all. The wheel wells are poor, but who looks there? Ha ha ha. It remains a good kit.
The Academy kit is just a Monogram kit with engraved panel lines, the fit is so-so, but does build into a nice representation.
So, that's my 10 cents worth, I hope you'll want to join this campaign, because the loss of the special interest group would be a loss to us all.
Thanks for reading this far!
John
Sorry for the late reply, but I know a bit about the P-47 kits out there. Though you've already purchased the Hasegawa kit, you need to know that the fit on the underside is not so good. You'll need to decide to putty the back or the front end. Either way, you're gonna lose some of the beautiful detail and have to replace.
And when I say putty, I mean a lot! I put about 2 grams onto my "-5" done in Don Gentile's bird (see it on builds on P-47 Heaven). I did 5 putty sessions, and re-scribed all the lost details, it turned out quite nice, but a lot of work. It's a good accurate rendition, though requires a bit of work.
In the future if you've extra cash, you get a Tamiya for 30 USD delivered, and you won't have any fit issues at all!
Otherwise, I could suggest Otaki's kit. This is often overlooked, but a very nice kit. The cockpit needs work, and the landing gear is less than banner. The kit on the whole for the cost is a good value.
The Monogram/Revell kits are the same. Molds were made in 1964 and it's a great kit! For today, if you're not gonna put a pilot in it, you'll need a cockpit, many are available (I really like the True Details one!). The engine can be built up, or one can get the TD R-2800 (a kit unto itself). Many say the tail is bit narrow, but as long as someone at a model show doesn't put their Tamiya one next to yours's you'll never notice. This is my go to kit for introducing new modelers to the world of WWII models. The fit is good, and if you know how to assemble the wings, you get no gap at all. The wheel wells are poor, but who looks there? Ha ha ha. It remains a good kit.
The Academy kit is just a Monogram kit with engraved panel lines, the fit is so-so, but does build into a nice representation.
So, that's my 10 cents worth, I hope you'll want to join this campaign, because the loss of the special interest group would be a loss to us all.
Thanks for reading this far!
John
Posted: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 - 06:10 PM UTC
I see I'm still listed as a host for the P-47 SIG, but my admin powers have gone. Unfortunately due to work and family commitments both Nigel and myself had to step back from the SIG duties and it faded from sight on the home page of Kitmaker, which is a real shame because there is a huge amount of information and reference material stored in those threads.
I am still working (slowly) on my 1/24 VFS P-47, but I have a few 1/48 scale kits in the stash so depending on the timing I would love to join in and try to revive interest here.
Cheers, D
I am still working (slowly) on my 1/24 VFS P-47, but I have a few 1/48 scale kits in the stash so depending on the timing I would love to join in and try to revive interest here.
Cheers, D
Bigrip74
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Posted: Thursday, September 19, 2019 - 01:22 AM UTC
@ John, thank you for your 10 cents it was greatly appreciated.
Bob
Bob
Bigrip74
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Posted: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 - 08:14 AM UTC
I already had two kits of the P-47:
REVELL P-47 Razorback (has been painted and the paint is now sanded off.)
Mnongram P-47 Razorback (same as above.
My son picked up (3) new kits for me for when this SIG gets off the ground.
Hasegawa P-47D
Hasegawa P-47 Razorback
Tamiya P-47 Razorback
So I am P-47 poor and will be ready.
REVELL P-47 Razorback (has been painted and the paint is now sanded off.)
Mnongram P-47 Razorback (same as above.
My son picked up (3) new kits for me for when this SIG gets off the ground.
Hasegawa P-47D
Hasegawa P-47 Razorback
Tamiya P-47 Razorback
So I am P-47 poor and will be ready.
Posted: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 - 05:49 PM UTC
Hi All,
I'm seeing a count of perhaps 9, maybe 11, depending on how you count, either way one more would secure this thing!
So who else is in?
I'm seeing a count of perhaps 9, maybe 11, depending on how you count, either way one more would secure this thing!
So who else is in?
PasiAhopelto
Uusimaa, Finland
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 05:29 PM UTC
Giving this a bump, I think one builder is still needed...
Reason for the bump is radial engined campaign that starts in few weeks, and I'll need to decide if I'll build P-47 (only one in stash) there or here
Reason for the bump is radial engined campaign that starts in few weeks, and I'll need to decide if I'll build P-47 (only one in stash) there or here
Bigrip74
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 06:05 PM UTC
Pasi. I have (5) P-47 kit's if you need one.
Bob
Bob
Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 06:29 PM UTC
Pasi, Have you checked the thread on P-47 Heaven? I think I added my 2 cents, and mused about doing the MPM XP-47H. Hope I'm in your count.
PasiAhopelto
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Posted: Friday, October 04, 2019 - 09:10 PM UTC
Actually I took John's (campaign organizer) calculations above, I believe it's the accurate number.
Thanks Bob, but I'm trying to downsize my stash to 150 kits. Four to go... And if this campaign becomes reality, then it's one less kit in stash
Thanks Bob, but I'm trying to downsize my stash to 150 kits. Four to go... And if this campaign becomes reality, then it's one less kit in stash
Bigrip74
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Posted: Saturday, October 05, 2019 - 04:00 AM UTC
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Actually I took John's (campaign organizer) calculations above, I believe it's the accurate number.
Thanks Bob, but I'm trying to downsize my stash to 150 kits. Four to go... And if this campaign becomes reality, then it's one less kit in stash
Pasi. I also am downsizing my stash and thought that this would be a chance.
Bob
Posted: Thursday, October 31, 2019 - 12:19 PM UTC
Hi Everyone,
After 11 long months, this campaign is official!!!
This is the link to the campaign thread:
http://p47.kitmaker.net/forums/281067&page=1
I encourage anyone with a P-47 in their stash, shelf of doom, etc to join on in and save our SIG (Special Interest Group).
Also, a special thanks to Michael for his help in making this campaign a reality.
Come one, come all!
John
After 11 long months, this campaign is official!!!
This is the link to the campaign thread:
http://p47.kitmaker.net/forums/281067&page=1
I encourage anyone with a P-47 in their stash, shelf of doom, etc to join on in and save our SIG (Special Interest Group).
Also, a special thanks to Michael for his help in making this campaign a reality.
Come one, come all!
John
Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 11:25 AM UTC
Posted: Sunday, November 03, 2019 - 05:38 PM UTC
Damian,
Welcome aboard! I love those old posters!!
Welcome aboard! I love those old posters!!