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Meng: Fokker Dr.1 Limited Editionlitespeed
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 09:59 PM UTC
It would seem there is a cloud on the horizon with Meng Models release of the 1/32 scale Fokker Dr.1, it will be a limited edition restricted to just a thousand kits
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Posted: Monday, June 22, 2020 - 11:55 PM UTC
Perhaps they will release a “plain “ version without the bust . I can do without .
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 01:41 AM UTC
I agree Richard and it isn't that great a likeness of him anyway; indeed had they not said it was MVR I would not have connected the two.
The bust released of MVR years ago by Dragon in their 1/48 "Knights of the Sky" series was superb (as were they all) given that from memory, Mike Good of 'Model Cellar' fame sculpted those I believe. Fortunately, I still have one.
It's the plastic inside the box I'm interested in and look forward to seeing more details and especially some decal options for it.
Gary
The bust released of MVR years ago by Dragon in their 1/48 "Knights of the Sky" series was superb (as were they all) given that from memory, Mike Good of 'Model Cellar' fame sculpted those I believe. Fortunately, I still have one.
It's the plastic inside the box I'm interested in and look forward to seeing more details and especially some decal options for it.
Gary
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 03:53 AM UTC
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Perhaps they will release a “plain “ version without the bust . I can do without .
They've already announced the "bustless" version:
https://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/news/35849
and:
https://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/news/35857
I look forward to seeing the markings options as well. It's pretty much been settled that this is the Wingnut Wings molds and they were going to issue it as two kits, the early F.1 and the production Dr.I. Should be interesting to see how Meng decides to go with them.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 03:56 AM UTC
It appears in these photos they got the barrel jackets right, as opposed to the early sprue shots of the assembled weapon which showed the cooling holes lined up, instead of this correct staggered layout. So that’s something. I suspect this will be their premium offering, as Richard has implied above, and more will be released in a different boxing. Let’s hope so, as I agree, the bust casting doesn’t really look so hot, and we’ve already discussed the box art, the addition of a “Richthofen sleeve” doesn’t improve things. Perhaps Meng is trying to cash in on the “limited” nature of WnW releases. But to limit this kit to only 1,000 pressings seems to be poor marketing, unless they intend on releasing it in a different format later. And by limiting it, it also implies a hefty price tag. I’d think a better marketing ploy would be to release it in a cheaper, fewer “bells and whistles” format, then add a “limited edition” later. Since I already have two Roden kits built and on the shelf, I won’t be buying this limited edition, unless it’s considerably cheaper. In my opinion, Meng has an opportunity to make lots of money here, but not with this particular release in this particular boxing, if the price isn’t right.
I’d hope there would be several marking “options” as well, since even Richthofen’s last Triplane, 425/17 went through at least 2 markings changes before he was shot down. This would be the early depiction, with the “Maltese” style crosses as it was painted when it left the factory. The markings on 425/17 had been largely painted out to the “Balkan” style crosses by the time he was shot down in April 1918 (although the lower surface crosses were only partially painted out).
VR, Russ
I’d hope there would be several marking “options” as well, since even Richthofen’s last Triplane, 425/17 went through at least 2 markings changes before he was shot down. This would be the early depiction, with the “Maltese” style crosses as it was painted when it left the factory. The markings on 425/17 had been largely painted out to the “Balkan” style crosses by the time he was shot down in April 1918 (although the lower surface crosses were only partially painted out).
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 09:16 AM UTC
Has anyone seen or heard of the base pice for the kit?
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 09:52 AM UTC
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Has anyone seen or heard of the base price for the kit?
54$US with bust, 37 without. at that price, I'd consider it, as it is equivalent in price to an armour kit, and good value. I could see this nose down in the mud of the western front, and quite like the black and white scheme over a solid red machine.
prices are as seen at hobbyeasy.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 10:14 AM UTC
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Quoted TextHas anyone seen or heard of the base price for the kit?
54$US with bust, 37 without. at that price, I'd consider it, as it is equivalent in price to an armour kit, and good value. I could see this nose down in the mud of the western front, and quite like the black and white scheme over a solid red machine.
prices are as seen at hobbyeasy.
Now those are great prices. WnW quality at those prices will definitely sell some kits. If I’m not mistaken, that’s cheaper than their ME163 kit.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 10:30 AM UTC
That would be less than half the price that WnW would charge! They'll sell boatloads at that price point!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 10:33 AM UTC
it'll be hard to keep them on shelf at that price. There are quite a few schemes that I like. Not a big footprint even in 1/32 scale.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 - 11:02 AM UTC
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it'll be hard to keep them on shelf at that price. There are quite a few schemes that I like. Not a big footprint even in 1/32 scale.
I think you’re right, they’ll sell fast and well, if that’s the US price. And the footprint is indeed small, taking up about the same or less space than a 1/48 Thunderbolt, Mustang, ME109 or Spitfire. Just to “prime the pump”, or “whet the whistle”, here’s a look at the two Roden Kits I built a few years back at LSP— Roden’s kit is certainly not the easiest kit to build, but it’s not a bad kit, just a bit overpriced. I trust this WnW heritage version will put the Roden kit in the background for both price and quality:
https://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=3178
I wonder if Meng will follow on with the Lancasters, or any other WnW kits that were in the works. And if Meng was the producer of WnW kits, I wonder if they’re producing this kit in lieu of payment default for their molding and tooling— not that it matters much, but it would certainly say something about any hope in the future for PJ’s WnW enterprise.
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 09:26 AM UTC
Hi all
I was really excited by some of the prices being suggested here - but UK discounted pre-order prices are more in the region of £60+ for the standard kit and £80 with the resin bust. So, it's edging towards WNG price territory - and it may not come anywhere near in terms of decal options and quality. So, it's dropped a few steps down my priority list as an "instant grab"!
I'm happy to wait and see.
All the best
Rowan
I was really excited by some of the prices being suggested here - but UK discounted pre-order prices are more in the region of £60+ for the standard kit and £80 with the resin bust. So, it's edging towards WNG price territory - and it may not come anywhere near in terms of decal options and quality. So, it's dropped a few steps down my priority list as an "instant grab"!
I'm happy to wait and see.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 10:41 AM UTC
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I wonder if Meng will follow on with the Lancasters, or any other WnW kits that were in the works.
VR, Russ
Unfortunately, Meng does not have the Lancaster molds.
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 10:47 AM UTC
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Hi all
I was really excited by some of the prices being suggested here - but UK discounted pre-order prices are more in the region of £60+ for the standard kit and £80 with the resin bust. So, it's edging towards WNG price territory - and it may not come anywhere near in terms of decal options and quality. So, it's dropped a few steps down my priority list as an "instant grab"!
I'm happy to wait and see.
All the best
Rowan
Looks like the pre-order prices in the States are in the $70-80 range as well. Still, pretty much guaranteed to be the best Dr.I on the market, so we'll see.
Michael
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 11:03 AM UTC
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Quoted Text[…] but UK discounted pre-order prices are more in the region of £60+ for the standard kit and £80 with the resin bust. So, it's edging towards WNG price territory - and it may not come anywhere near in terms of decal options and quality.
Looks like the pre-order prices in the States are in the $70-80 range as well. Still, pretty much guaranteed to be the best Dr.I on the market, so we'll see.
The internet is your friend, shop around... look at hobbyeasy, the kit with bust is 51$US, or 80 kiwi dollars. I’m contemplating it and I don’t do airplanes, much less WWI. And as for quality, the more you want, the more you pay. But then again, I’ve read elsewhere on the interweb that this is WNW’s kit in a Meng box, so quality should not be an issue.
Your mileage may vary...
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 11:26 AM UTC
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I wonder if Meng will follow on with the Lancasters, or any other WnW kits that were in the works.
VR, Russ
Unfortunately, Meng does not have the Lancaster molds.
So Shell, who has them and how do you know? Please share.
VR, Russ
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 03:19 PM UTC
Through a discussion over on largescaleplanes.com it was mentioned that Meng was not in possession of those molds. Who does was not said.
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Posted: Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 04:54 PM UTC
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Through a discussion over on largescaleplanes.com it was mentioned that Meng was not in possession of those molds. Who does was not said.
Shell, thanks. I contribute to LSP but rarely go to the Forums. Guess I’ll need to start.
VR, Russ