at the minute im building a bf 109 D, and was thinking that i know the 109's went up to the K version, but were there H,I, J,types? ive never heard mention of these if they were built.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:27 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 05:38 AM UTC
B,C,D,E,F,G,H,K,T,V according to http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/messerschmitt/me109.htm
Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:27 AM UTC
Hello Phil!
To make things simple:
B and C versions where used before the war and during the Spanish civil war.
D version was used in the Spanish civil war and during the first month of war (poland and "Sitzkrieg").
E version was widely used in 1939, 1940 and 1941 ("Campagne de France", "Battle of Britain", "Barbarossa", "North africa" etc...)
F version followed and was used on the same locations in 1941, 1942 and 1943.
G version was used on various locations too but can be considered as an "home defense" fighter in 1943, 1944 and 1945.
K version was the last one and can also be considered as an "home defense fighter" in 1944 and 1945.
The other versions H - L- S - T - TL - Z where mainly projects or prototypes wich never saw operational use:
H was an High altitude fighter but the Ta 152H was prefered
L was an attempt to adapt a jumo engine to a Bf 109 F-1
S was a training version of the G (double cockpit)
T was a naval version of the E to be used on the Graf Zeppelin aircraft carrier wich was never build.
TL was some sort of Me 262 alternative
Z was two Me 109 put together to make a Twin motorized fighter
Of course V are the prototype designations.
As far as I know, the I and J letters where never used to designate German planes...
Hope this can help even if it's very "simplified"! Going into detail would take ages!
Jean-Luc
To make things simple:
B and C versions where used before the war and during the Spanish civil war.
D version was used in the Spanish civil war and during the first month of war (poland and "Sitzkrieg").
E version was widely used in 1939, 1940 and 1941 ("Campagne de France", "Battle of Britain", "Barbarossa", "North africa" etc...)
F version followed and was used on the same locations in 1941, 1942 and 1943.
G version was used on various locations too but can be considered as an "home defense" fighter in 1943, 1944 and 1945.
K version was the last one and can also be considered as an "home defense fighter" in 1944 and 1945.
The other versions H - L- S - T - TL - Z where mainly projects or prototypes wich never saw operational use:
H was an High altitude fighter but the Ta 152H was prefered
L was an attempt to adapt a jumo engine to a Bf 109 F-1
S was a training version of the G (double cockpit)
T was a naval version of the E to be used on the Graf Zeppelin aircraft carrier wich was never build.
TL was some sort of Me 262 alternative
Z was two Me 109 put together to make a Twin motorized fighter
Of course V are the prototype designations.
As far as I know, the I and J letters where never used to designate German planes...
Hope this can help even if it's very "simplified"! Going into detail would take ages!
Jean-Luc
Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 08:57 AM UTC
Hi there
"German Aircraft Of The Second World War" - J.R. Smith & A.L. Kay states that the Bf109J was "the German designation for a proposed variant to be built under licence in Spain."
Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know.
All the best
Rowan
"German Aircraft Of The Second World War" - J.R. Smith & A.L. Kay states that the Bf109J was "the German designation for a proposed variant to be built under licence in Spain."
Whether that's accurate or not, I don't know.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 06:16 PM UTC
If you go http://www.messerschmitt-bf109.de here you'll see all the versions there were including 109 variants.
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Posted: Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 04:34 AM UTC
mossieramm - great site link thanks for finding and sharing that.