Will the old Revell ME-109G kit work for a 109 from JG 300 Wilde Sau. The plan is to make it into an early night fighter.
Thanks!
~Chip
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Revell 109 Work for JG-300?
chip250
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Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 06:43 PM UTC
Posted: Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 08:22 PM UTC
Hi Chip
Which Revell kit is it? What scale? If you're going to model one of the aircraft on the EagleCals sheets, you need a Bf 109G-6.
The really old 1/32 scale Revell kit is pretty inaccurate, but they've been re-boxing the lovely Hasegawa kits in Europe... In 1/48 scale the 1970s Revell kit is a G-10/14 hybrid, so it'd need an enormous amount of work to take it back to a G-6. 1/72?... I don't know.
I'm actually working on a JG300 double-build in 1/48 scale, using the Hasegawa Bf 109G-6 and an old TriMaster Fw 190A-8 (to "back-date" to an A-7).
Hope this helps
Rowan
Which Revell kit is it? What scale? If you're going to model one of the aircraft on the EagleCals sheets, you need a Bf 109G-6.
The really old 1/32 scale Revell kit is pretty inaccurate, but they've been re-boxing the lovely Hasegawa kits in Europe... In 1/48 scale the 1970s Revell kit is a G-10/14 hybrid, so it'd need an enormous amount of work to take it back to a G-6. 1/72?... I don't know.
I'm actually working on a JG300 double-build in 1/48 scale, using the Hasegawa Bf 109G-6 and an old TriMaster Fw 190A-8 (to "back-date" to an A-7).
Hope this helps
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, October 03, 2005 - 06:52 AM UTC
Sorry, I was a little vague there. The 48 scale 109G from Revell.
Posted: Monday, October 03, 2005 - 07:03 AM UTC
Hi Chip
It's a different box from what I've seen this side of the pond, but I reckon that's the 1970s G-10/-14. A great value kit, but it'll be a very big job to back-date to a G-6 - new tail, new cowling, new canopy, different wing-bulges...
There may have been JG300 G-10/-14s, but they're not covered by the EagleCals sheets...
All the best
Rowan
It's a different box from what I've seen this side of the pond, but I reckon that's the 1970s G-10/-14. A great value kit, but it'll be a very big job to back-date to a G-6 - new tail, new cowling, new canopy, different wing-bulges...
There may have been JG300 G-10/-14s, but they're not covered by the EagleCals sheets...
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, October 03, 2005 - 01:53 PM UTC
So is that the good thing about history, no one can say for sure? If I didn't back date anything, could JG-300 still of had G-10s?
Thanks.
~Chip
Thanks.
~Chip
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 08:19 AM UTC
Hi again Chip
JG300 certainly flew G-10s... and, staring at the rather small Revell boxtop made me hunt out a larger version - that blue-white-blue tail band is JG300's Reichsverteidigung (home defence) colours, so you've got a JG300 Bf 109G-10 in the box! The problem for you is that it's a day-fighter. As far as I can make out, JG300 switched from night- to day-fighting at around (or before) the G-10 was introduced.
But all is not lost! By coincidence... I went shopping today and found this:
A G-10 night-fighter! Flown by Hptm. Friedrich Karl Müller, of I/NLJG 11. I haven't looked for any refs yet but, if Hasegawa are to be believed, it's a real odd-ball! It's got a Schräge Musik cannon behind the cockpit and a salvaged P-38 drop tank to make up for the loss of fuel capacity in the conversion! I can scan the instructions if you want to apply the scheme to the Revell kit.
All the best
Rowan
JG300 certainly flew G-10s... and, staring at the rather small Revell boxtop made me hunt out a larger version - that blue-white-blue tail band is JG300's Reichsverteidigung (home defence) colours, so you've got a JG300 Bf 109G-10 in the box! The problem for you is that it's a day-fighter. As far as I can make out, JG300 switched from night- to day-fighting at around (or before) the G-10 was introduced.
But all is not lost! By coincidence... I went shopping today and found this:
A G-10 night-fighter! Flown by Hptm. Friedrich Karl Müller, of I/NLJG 11. I haven't looked for any refs yet but, if Hasegawa are to be believed, it's a real odd-ball! It's got a Schräge Musik cannon behind the cockpit and a salvaged P-38 drop tank to make up for the loss of fuel capacity in the conversion! I can scan the instructions if you want to apply the scheme to the Revell kit.
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 09:16 AM UTC
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JG300's Reichsvertigund (home defence)
Correct word = Reichsverteidigung
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By coincidence... I went shopping today and found this:
Why do I have the feeling it was not a "coincidence" :-)
Jean-Luc
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 09:28 AM UTC
Cheers Jean-Luc
He he... I wrote "Verteidigung" to start with - High School German still at work! - and then "corrected" it thanks to Squadron's '109 In Action (Verteidigund...) and double-botched it in the process!
Sometimes I should just do what teacher told me...
All the best
Rowan
He he... I wrote "Verteidigung" to start with - High School German still at work! - and then "corrected" it thanks to Squadron's '109 In Action (Verteidigund...) and double-botched it in the process!
Sometimes I should just do what teacher told me...
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 09:49 AM UTC
Hi Rowan!
I have some Squadron "in detail" books (Bf 109, FW 190) that are full of spelling errors concerning German words... maybe I should write a feature about it! :-)
Jean-Luc
I have some Squadron "in detail" books (Bf 109, FW 190) that are full of spelling errors concerning German words... maybe I should write a feature about it! :-)
Jean-Luc
Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 09:59 AM UTC
Jean-Luc
That would be cruel!
I'm just miffed I doubted my memory... aber es gibt fast 30 Jahre seit ich deutsch zuerst gelernt habe... and sorry if thats got even MORE mistakes in it! :-)
I try to be a true European... honestly...
All the best
Rowan
That would be cruel!
I'm just miffed I doubted my memory... aber es gibt fast 30 Jahre seit ich deutsch zuerst gelernt habe... and sorry if thats got even MORE mistakes in it! :-)
I try to be a true European... honestly...
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 09:04 PM UTC
Thanks you guys. I guess I should of done a little of my own research. I got the idea to do this off of aircraftresourcecenter.com, there is a 109 in the gallery that has been painted to look like a Nachtjaeger from JG-300. Thanks again Merlin for helpin me aus.
~Chip
~Chip
Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 06:28 AM UTC
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I'm just miffed I doubted my memory... aber es gibt fast 30 Jahre seit ich deutsch zuerst gelernt habe... and sorry if thats got even MORE mistakes in it! :-)
Ich spreche bissen Deutch vom dreisig Jahre.... :-) hinter ...!
EDIT: According to Bablefish, "Von ich spreche wenig, das dreißig Jahren vor deutsch ist".
Posted: Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 07:57 AM UTC
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Quoted TextI'm just miffed I doubted my memory... aber es gibt fast 30 Jahre seit ich deutsch zuerst gelernt habe... and sorry if thats got even MORE mistakes in it! :-)
Ich spreche bissen Deutch vom dreisig Jahre.... :-) hinter ...!
EDIT: According to Bablefish, "Von ich spreche wenig, das dreißig Jahren vor deutsch ist".
Guten Tag an alle!
Richtig schreibt es sich so: "Zuletzt habe ich Deutsch vor 30 Jahren gelernt"
Und was hat das ganze mit "Bablefish" zu tun?
Jean-Luc
Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 05:28 PM UTC
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Und was hat das ganze mit "Bablefish" zu tun?
Jean-Luc
Und was hat das ganze mit "Bablefish" zu tun? = And which has the whole with "Bablefish" to do?
Hmmm... ...I fear the meaning was lost in translation. I rely on the computer to translate for me now, at babalefish: Bablefish Translator
Is that what you meant?
Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 07:15 PM UTC
Hi Fred!
The translation is correct! I didn't knew the Bablefish thing... it could be of use in the future for me! I'll try to translate my next feature article with it to see what happens...
Thanks Fred!
Jean-Luc
The translation is correct! I didn't knew the Bablefish thing... it could be of use in the future for me! I'll try to translate my next feature article with it to see what happens...
Thanks Fred!
Jean-Luc
Posted: Friday, October 07, 2005 - 07:25 PM UTC
Hi Jean-LUc
I don't think you need rely on Bablefish - your own English is very good and Bablefish isn't foolproof, by any means... I've had some great fun with Polish and Czech!
- I'd probably say "And what's the whole thing got to do with Bablefish?".
Anyway, maybe it's time to let this thread get back onto the original topic?...
All the best
Rowan
I don't think you need rely on Bablefish - your own English is very good and Bablefish isn't foolproof, by any means... I've had some great fun with Polish and Czech!
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Und was hat das ganze mit "Bablefish" zu tun?
- I'd probably say "And what's the whole thing got to do with Bablefish?".
Anyway, maybe it's time to let this thread get back onto the original topic?...
All the best
Rowan