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Oh no!, I dull coated my Canopy
propboy44256
Ohio, United States
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 04:37 AM UTC
Is there anything I can do, to save it?
AJLaFleche
Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:10 AM UTC
Bummer I ahte when that happens, but there's hope
Two options come quickly to mind :
A. Vacuform/pressform a new one using your old one as a master. Squadron has clear acetate or you can try using thin packaging acetate from a blister pack.
B. Get to your hobby shop and buy a polishing set in the car model section, you know the dark side of the store where the weird guys hang out. The one I have has polishing paper on foam backing down to a 16000 grit. It's going to take some time and be scary because you'll need to start with a coarser paper which will put minute scratches in the glazing. As you decrease the coarsness, the glazing will become clearer. You might want to dip the canopy in Future before reapplying it. That's supposed to hide very fine scratches as well.
Good luck
Two options come quickly to mind :
A. Vacuform/pressform a new one using your old one as a master. Squadron has clear acetate or you can try using thin packaging acetate from a blister pack.
B. Get to your hobby shop and buy a polishing set in the car model section, you know the dark side of the store where the weird guys hang out. The one I have has polishing paper on foam backing down to a 16000 grit. It's going to take some time and be scary because you'll need to start with a coarser paper which will put minute scratches in the glazing. As you decrease the coarsness, the glazing will become clearer. You might want to dip the canopy in Future before reapplying it. That's supposed to hide very fine scratches as well.
Good luck
slodder
North Carolina, United States
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:11 AM UTC
I don't know for sure - but I would try to mask off the canopy and put on a coat of future or gloss coat. I don't think it could make it any worse.
wait to see if anyone else chimes in.
wait to see if anyone else chimes in.
azizmaz
United States
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 05:38 AM UTC
Go buy another model of the same plane and use the canopy from the box. Then use the rest for a model of a crashed plan dio with a blown off canopy.
mavrick1124
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Posted: Thursday, January 09, 2003 - 11:40 PM UTC
Being from the US of A you can look up Melaluca on the net. Buy what they call Solu-Mel. It is an all purpose cleaner and is pricy. You can dilute it as much or as little as you like. It will not harm ,haze, or fog clear plastic parts. It will also take permanemt marker off of plastic as well as paint. Good luck
HeavyArty
Florida, United States
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:23 AM UTC
Best bet would be to mask it off and spray with 2 to 3 coats of gloss and it should clear right up.
AJLaFleche
Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:45 AM UTC
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Best bet would be to mask it off and spray with 2 to 3 coats of gloss and it should clear right up.
You've tried this? I think the problem is dullcote and glosscote are laquers and attack the plastic. I accidentally glosscoted glazing once and it fogged up as well.
NimitzFan
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:56 AM UTC
Your best bet is to sand it down with varying fine grits of sandpaper, use a polish to buff it, and dip it in future floor wax. There was an article in FSM a few years ago about making canopies sparkle.
NimitzFan
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 07:58 AM UTC
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Bummer I ahte when that happens, but there's hope
Two options come quickly to mind :
A. Vacuform/pressform a new one using your old one as a master. Squadron has clear acetate or you can try using thin packaging acetate from a blister pack.
B. Get to your hobby shop and buy a polishing set in the car model section, you know the dark side of the store where the weird guys hang out. The one I have has polishing paper on foam backing down to a 16000 grit. It's going to take some time and be scary because you'll need to start with a coarser paper which will put minute scratches in the glazing. As you decrease the coarsness, the glazing will become clearer. You might want to dip the canopy in Future before reapplying it. That's supposed to hide very fine scratches as well.
Good luck
Sorry, AJLaFleche, I did not read your entire post...did not mean to duplicate.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 09:51 AM UTC
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Sorry, AJLaFleche, I did not read your entire post...did not mean to duplicate.
Not a problem, great minds think alike and all that, don't cha know!
Kraftstoff
Canada
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Posted: Friday, January 10, 2003 - 06:20 PM UTC
Hi Bud,
forget the guys with the billion grit sandpaper ideas...the canopy probably will most likely crack under the MULTIPLE sanding coats necessary (the dullcoat laquer chemically bites into the plastic)...NOT worth the time effort or frustration
1)get yourself a vacuformed copy
or
2)get yourself a new kit
3)scrap old kit (save landing gear props etc)
4)get yourself a hammer
5) smash whats left of old kit
things like this happen to us all sooner or later
cheers,
Dave
forget the guys with the billion grit sandpaper ideas...the canopy probably will most likely crack under the MULTIPLE sanding coats necessary (the dullcoat laquer chemically bites into the plastic)...NOT worth the time effort or frustration
1)get yourself a vacuformed copy
or
2)get yourself a new kit
3)scrap old kit (save landing gear props etc)
4)get yourself a hammer
5) smash whats left of old kit
things like this happen to us all sooner or later
cheers,
Dave
stugiiif
Virginia, United States
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Posted: Saturday, January 11, 2003 - 12:37 AM UTC
I'd go with a squadron vac canopy, but if you want to spen the money i'd suggest the guys at novus. they have the polishing of the age, it comes in three steps and i've seen it do wonders on the CAR kits, and is recommended by my local IPMS car group for turning flats in to deep glosses. hope it helps stug