Hi Guys,
Classic Airframes B.239. Good thing for gap filling superglue! Bad fit all over. All of those beautiful bulkheads are too broad for the fuselage to close around. The cowl ring is a greater diameter than the fuselage. Much gap filling and reshaping to blend it to the fuselage.
The belly. Note where the wing center section joins the bottom of fuselage.
Fuselage to cowl ring. I thought I had that seam filled.
Tail. Halves of cone are different sizes, and fit asymetrical. The stabalizers are basically superglued onto the fuselage, then more gap filling and putty.
Bad cowl and belly fit. You can see how much filling and blending to get the cowl ring around the fuselage. There is a 1/8" plastic shim to fill in the big gap between fuselage gap to cowl ring. You can also see how this displaces the fore lower wing to fuselage joints.
Cowl ring.
Bottom of same.
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 07:17 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 07:47 PM UTC
Thanks for the heads-up on the fit issues. Those bulkheads remind me of the CA Morane (MPM's Mörkö variant actually, but the same kit from firewall aft) cockpit assembly with the much too thick fuselage sides and/or resin cockpit walls. Oh, all that sanding and grinding...
And the same with the landing gear wells.
Well, but that's the thing with limited-run kits, they tend to require a little (or a lot, depending on the kit) more TLC than main-stream kits.
If you ask my opinion, I would have another go with some putty to take care of the seams on the instrument panel coaming, near the cowling on the belly, and the tail cones and horizontal stabilizer.
Looks like a good-looking kit when finished. What markings are you planning to use?
Oh, more thing popped in my mind. Remember to fill one of the two landing lights under the wings, as told in the instructions (shouldn't be hard, glue in the clear part, apply a dab of putty and sand smooth). If my memory serves me right, the earlier versions had only one landing light.
And the same with the landing gear wells.
Well, but that's the thing with limited-run kits, they tend to require a little (or a lot, depending on the kit) more TLC than main-stream kits.
If you ask my opinion, I would have another go with some putty to take care of the seams on the instrument panel coaming, near the cowling on the belly, and the tail cones and horizontal stabilizer.
Looks like a good-looking kit when finished. What markings are you planning to use?
Oh, more thing popped in my mind. Remember to fill one of the two landing lights under the wings, as told in the instructions (shouldn't be hard, glue in the clear part, apply a dab of putty and sand smooth). If my memory serves me right, the earlier versions had only one landing light.
Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:10 PM UTC
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Well, but that's the thing with limited-run kits, they tend to require a little (or a lot, depending on the kit) more TLC than main-stream kits.
Hi Eetu,
Yes, that is why I have avoided them until this kit. My first was a Mierkraft SB2U Vindicator 15 years ago. I could finish it now, and may, but half the plastic needs to be ground away.
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...have another go with some putty to take care of the seams on the instrument panel coaming, near the cowling on the belly, and the tail cones and horizontal stabilizer.
Already done. I wonder if the fuselage fore of the cockpit cracked? It was filled before I primed it. The panel combing--scary. I tried and almost daubbed putty all over the beautiful panel!
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BW-364, WO Juutilianen's 'orange 4'. Hmmm, just noted the belly will be aluminum. I wanted blue! What markings are you planning to use?
Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 09:31 PM UTC
Hi Fred
this sounds very discouraging .... I hope you made a mistake and mine will fit like a charme ... Well, I guess that won't be the case, but I need something to motivate myself ... i hope to finish the N1K2-J this week and the Fw 190 A-3 close behind .. so that would be my next project to begin (beside some others that already run ... out of time)
I have a CA F-5B half built for almost 2 years now ... and it is a project for the LW museum collection ... so there was a dead line .. actually I consider the model having a flat line
Honestly, I cannot join the hype about CA models .. most I have are a nightmare ... maybe it is just a lack of abilities, but I have no fun with them
good it is the time of the year when you put firecrackers ... ...
best wishes
Steffen
this sounds very discouraging .... I hope you made a mistake and mine will fit like a charme ... Well, I guess that won't be the case, but I need something to motivate myself ... i hope to finish the N1K2-J this week and the Fw 190 A-3 close behind .. so that would be my next project to begin (beside some others that already run ... out of time)
I have a CA F-5B half built for almost 2 years now ... and it is a project for the LW museum collection ... so there was a dead line .. actually I consider the model having a flat line
Honestly, I cannot join the hype about CA models .. most I have are a nightmare ... maybe it is just a lack of abilities, but I have no fun with them
good it is the time of the year when you put firecrackers ... ...
best wishes
Steffen
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Posted: Monday, October 30, 2006 - 11:46 PM UTC
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Quoted TextBW-364, WO Juutilianen's 'orange 4'. Hmmm, just noted the belly will be aluminum. I wanted blue!What markings are you planning to use?
The same as on my 1:72 version then.
About that belly color. Hasegawa's marking sheet said light grey, so that's what I did.
I checked the instructions of InScale's Brewster decal sheet. For BW-364, it says black / olive green / light grey.
But then, some references say aluminium, including CA's instructions...
To alpha_tango:
My only experience with CA so far has been the Mörkö-Morane (well, CA's kit with MPM's nose...), and it wasn't that horrible. All components that went between the fuselage halves had to be thinned, I scribed all the panels a little deeper, made new machine gun and cannon barrels & pitot tubes etc.
It took quite lot more effort than those Tamigawa shake'n'bake kits but I think the results were worth it.
A model of quite an esoteric aircraft.