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.50 cals on Hueys
KentuckyRegs
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Posted: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 03:06 PM UTC
I working on building a 1/35 Huey from the 1990's Desert Storm era. Would any of these Hueys be likely to have a .50 cal MG instead of the normal M-60??

Also, what company produces the best .50 cal MG's??

Thanks for any help!
Rattler
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Posted: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 04:02 PM UTC
from My 2 years over there during that time I never once seen an Amercian UH with a 50 on it.. mostly 60's and once in a blue moon an 249 the norm was a 60 though.. least in the area where I was the UH's we seen had 60's or 249's..

but some guys in other area's of the AO might have seen some. couldnt tell ya though


Chris
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:01 AM UTC
Some years ago, I did a number of Huey and Cobra variants from Vietnam through Desert Storm. I don't remember seeing any .50's on the Hueys in any references.
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 03:11 AM UTC
Working on them for ten years, I haven't seen a .50 mounted on them.
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 09:02 AM UTC
Not the norm, but Squadron's "Huey in Action" has a couple of pics with the door mounted M2 during VN. Quite a variety of weapons in the doors actually.

You've got to remember that the M2 weighs 82 (?) lbs without the mount and ammo. It's no lightweight.
Rattler
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 09:45 AM UTC
Kevin, lol not to mention it will rattler your teeth outta yer head.. they used to shake the hell out of the HMMV my team was useing come to think of it I can remember firing one on the 577 I used to drive back in 89 and it rattled around even more so..

"ahhh I'd give a weeks worth of R&R for the smell of a 50cal" can yall guess what movie that quote came form ??? heeh movie trivia

Chris
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 10:05 AM UTC
Never saw "ma duce" on a Huey. Weighs too much, recoils too much, ammo is heavy and takes up too much room. Stick with the M-60's. Even the Blackhawks mount .30cal mini guns not 50's for the same reason.


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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 11:35 AM UTC

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Kevin, lol not to mention it will rattler your teeth outta yer head.. they used to shake the hell out of the HMMV my team was useing come to think of it I can remember firing one on the 577 I used to drive back in 89 and it rattled around even more so..

"ahhh I'd give a weeks worth of R&R for the smell of a 50cal" can yall guess what movie that quote came form ??? heeh movie trivia

Chris


Yep, I always thought that firing the M2 first thing in the morning was the best way to perk you right the hell up for the rest of the day! OOH-RAH!

I've only fired it from the 113 and (mostly) ground mount. Somethin' about rockin' that baby off a track is enough to give you a wood!

The UH-60 has the option of a three-barrel 50 cal, but I've never seen that other than in pictures. Oh My, be still my heart!

You've got me stumped on the movie, but I'd be more than happy to up the ante. It's been such a long time....
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 12:01 PM UTC
I stand corrected. From UH-1 Huey in Action: XM-59 (AN-M2 .50 Caliber Machine Gun)
A door gun system used on Huey slicks, the XM-59 is essentially the XM-23 adapted for use with the .50 caliber machine gun which attaches to the XM-23 base tube assembly. Features of the kit include an ammunition box, link receptacle, and brass deflector. The XM-59 designation uses an M600 on the opposite side. The .50 caliber can fire 700 spin at a range of 3,000 meters.

The one picture I found was a D model in 1967 tricked out for night ops with what was described as a "lightning bug" light system. The .50 had an air cooled barrel.
KentuckyRegs
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:16 PM UTC
Thanks for all the help. I really like that UH-1H Nighthawk. Gives me lots of ideas. Where can I find good 1/35 .50 cals, searchlights, and mini-guns?

thanks for the help!
Whiskey
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Posted: Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 04:32 PM UTC
It looks cool but for Desert Storm you cant use it cause they didnt use it lol.
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2003 - 01:38 AM UTC
Jeffry,

Thanks for the great reference!
Rattler
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Posted: Friday, February 14, 2003 - 11:43 PM UTC
KR, Verlindan makes a nice 50 cal and Legend has a nice mini gun.... but as to the search light ya got me there man.. might wanna try an scratch build it


Chris
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Posted: Saturday, February 15, 2003 - 02:43 PM UTC
Those photos of the UH-1N look mean. That's a heavy gun though. Hey Rattler, triva, Green Berets or Siege of Firebase Gloria come to mind on reference to 50's . I'm doing the Panda UH-1D, from Apocalypse Now. Col. Kilgore's ship complete with surf boards and crew.
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Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 09:46 AM UTC
I'm no Huey nor a .50 caliber expert, but I fired quite some .50 rounds during my army days...... therefore I fully second this statement


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Never saw "ma duce" on a Huey. Weighs too much, recoils too much, ammo is heavy and takes up too much room. Stick with the M-60's


I think the recoil's the killer...... it would shake the bird apart....
Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:22 AM UTC
Mav you win the cookie.. lol umm ok you only win half the cookie cause you named off 2 movies.. the quote came from The Green Berets. bout the only thing on the panda UH's I don't like is the ruffness of the plastic. but ahh well they are new an will get better with time I hope..
ok nother movie quote fer yall


"woof-woof" ok need the movie title an actor who did it

Chris
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Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 10:59 AM UTC
Thanks again for all the help.


Kellys Heros ring a bell.
Rattler
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Posted: Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 12:54 PM UTC
KR you win man.. lol damn i gotta dig deeper into My movies to stump yall... KR if ya like I've got an extra 50cal.. if ya want it drop Me a private messaeg with mailing addy an I'll get it out to ya this week if I'm able to..

Chris

P.S. but I'm not parting with My mini guns lol took Me 6 months to get them..
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Posted: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 11:36 PM UTC
Rattler, Donald Sutherland, Now I have a whole cookie LOL. I left a new post about the Panda decals on the Hueys. Bad medicine!!!! I got lucky and saved the swords. A buddy had the rest of the stuff I needed to finish her .
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Posted: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 01:58 AM UTC

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Thanks for all the help. I really like that UH-1H Nighthawk. Gives me lots of ideas. Where can I find good 1/35 .50 cals, searchlights, and mini-guns?

thanks for the help!


You might want to try looking at kits for Older Russian tanks. Some of their tanks were fitted with spot lights for night firing.
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