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Spitfire Mk.I
TedMamere
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Moselle, France
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 01:37 AM UTC


Leon Storla's (newtothegame) 1/48 Tamiya MK.I Spitfire allowed him to try out quite a few new techniques. While the kit is great as is, he added the Cutting Edge Spitfire I/II Super detailed cockpit and found out it was really worth the extra money.

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If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
Wad_ware
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Illinois, United States
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 05:30 AM UTC
That is a great looking Spitfire build there Leon and a nice feature article.
You are really turning out some quality work on your models such as this and your Frank for the duel campaign. etc.. etc...
Keep up the great work !!
Wayne
newtothegame
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 06:18 AM UTC
Thanks Wayne. I really appreciate it. The spit was an incredibly enjoyable build.
Leon
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 12:47 PM UTC
Nice build feature. Well done, Leon.

QQ: Those red jobs that are over the gun ports (which I assume are there to ascertain whether they were fired or not?)... are those decals or they painted on?

Then... I'm sure I read somewhere that some of the early Mk.I's used a twin blade wooden prop? Is this correct? And if so when did they change to the three blade variable pitch prop?

Sorry about all the ignorant questions... all these great models are piquing (sp?) my interest in wingy things :-)

Rudi
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 02:32 PM UTC
The first 77 Spitfires had two-blade props, but, if they survived, would have been re-fitted with three-bladed. There are a few points, for anyone contemplating the Tamiya Mk.I, "as is." The crowbar, on the door, did not exist, during 1940, and, at least, part of 1941; it was introduced on the Mk.V production line, and could be black, green, silver, but not red (that seems to have been a post-war innovation.) There should be IFF aerials, running from just aft of the radio hatch (but both sides) out to the tip of each tailplane; these were introduced in 1939. Ditch part no. A17, allegedly the radio. We suspect that Tamiya measured a Mk.I, which lives near here, and didn't realise that the radio, being a modern 7/20 channel set, isn't right for a Battle of Britain machine. The control box sat in the front left-hand corner, just under the front-left quadrant of the windscreen. Part no A19 is not the oxygen bottles, but the compressed air bottles; the oxygen bottle was set on the opposite side, just under the fixed glass. Both of these seem to have been corrected, on the detail set, but the oxygen bottle should be black. Very early seats, being metal, were green, but, later, they were made of a compressed resin mixture, and were a brick-red. Two-bar rudder pedals did not exist, before, at least, August, 1940. They were tested, then, and retro-fitted, on recommendation from, I believe, Bob Stanford-Tuck. Only late Mk.Is had the "automatic" retraction system; early a/c had the pump-handle fitting. The Tamiya kit is missing the armour plate, behind the seat; early fittings were unpainted steel, later they were cockpit green. Early Spitfires, built by Supermarine had a different shade, of green, from the normal shade, in the cockpit; it was a rather sickly shade, not very different from the Sky, used underneath. The red patches, over the gun muzzles, served a dual purpose; they kept dirt, and the cold out, as well as indicating that the guns were loaded, and cocked. Some groundcrew would dope pieces of newspaper over the shell ejection ports, as well.
All of this is not meant to be a criticism of this superb build, please understand that; I hope that you'll treat it as additional information.
Edgar
Antoni
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 06:59 PM UTC

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... There are a few points, for anyone contemplating the Tamiya Mk.I, "as is." The crowbar, on the door, did not exist, during 1940, and, at least, part of 1941; it was introduced on the Mk.V production line, and could be black, green, silver, but not red (that seems to have been a post-war innovation.)



After W.W.II international agreements stipulated that safety equipment be painted red. As the crowbar was there to help the pilot to extricate himself if trapped or if the canopy jammed when jettisoned it was considered to be an item of safety equipment. Therefore it had to be painted red. Museum exhibits and restorations often have red crowbars and it may well be still a legal requirement on flying examples.



Black stencilling is also frequently seen and non authentic. During W.W.II the crowbar was either natural metal or painted the same colour as the door and the stencilling invariably red.









Door on a Mk II Spitfire. No crowbar.

newtothegame
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Posted: Friday, December 08, 2006 - 08:51 PM UTC
Wow Antoni and Edgar. Thanks for the extra info. Definitely received as good extra info and not criticism. I will store the info given for future builds. Thanks!

Rudi, My red pieces are actually red painted pieces of tamiya tape.

Thanks again guys. I really appreciate the comments and extra info.
Leon
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