hey,
iam not familar,with this german plane,can anyone help?

http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/german-luftwaffe/fm2

and the colors that are used

Joe

That is a difficult one for me. It looks like something captured. I would guess Polish or French, but I do not know.

The underside seems to be a light yellow which could indicate it is a captured aircraft.
There are at least three other colours on the aircraft. Could be RLM 65 light blue on the engine cowling with RLM 82 dark green and RLM 81 brown violet on the tail.

Just my 2 cents.

My first guess was the same as Jesper, " Polish or French", but based on the engine cowl shape and the two bladed props it actually appears to be Russian ?

Maybe a Tupolev SB 2 "Katiuska"? Seems they were quite popular used in the Spanish Civil War, later used by the Russians, Luftwaffe, Italians, and Chinese. The one in the photo appears to be an early wersion, there were later versins with 3 bladed props and different cowls.



I wouldn't even venture a guess at the colors (colors in the photo are probably off a bit as it's old and I'm color blind) I'll leave that to someone with younger eyes, but they do appear to be standard Luftwaffe colors.

i would say captured aswell, my guess would be a French captured one, The nose of the other aircraft looks like a Bloch 152.

Greetings Léon

Like Chuck, I would guess that it is a SB-2. Many were captured by the germans, both sowjetbuilt SB-2 and licencebuilt Avias B 71. Is there some information about the airfield where the picture was taken? My guess is that it is Rechlin or some other airfield that was used by the Erprobungsstelle. But Rechlin was the most famous.

P.S.: Im pretty sure, that it is a Avia B 71 (btw. i think, all ac in luftwaffe service of this type were called B 71, regardless of theire origin.). I found another pic of one in german service. http://www.luftarchiv.de/beute/cssr/russ14.jpg

It is a Tupolev SB, either sold to Czechoslovakia or built under licence there, In 1937 20 SBs were sold to the Czech government and a production licence given free of charge. Eventually 61 Soviet-built bombers were delivered. Soviet-built SBs fitted with Czech Avia HS 12Ydrs engines and other Czech equipment were given the designation B-71 in Czech service. Czech B-71 production was undertaken by three companies, Letov, Aero and Avia, with 160 planned to be built. In March 1939, when Germany occupied the country, 59 of the 61 B-71s delivered by the USSR were appropriated by the Luftwaffe. One remained in Slovak service. Production continued and the Luftwaffe converted most for target towing designating them B-71A. Later changes resulted in the B-71B. 24 Soviet built B-71s were sold to Bulgaria mainly for training purposes. A few B-71s and captured SBs were used by the Abwehr for reconnaissance and to paradrop saboteurs into Soviet territory.

Yes its an Avia B-71 ICM make one the code is 72163 in German markings hope this helps

What about the second plane you see on the pic, only the nose is visible. I would say its a Bloch 152, has anybody got any other thoughts on that?

Greetings Léon

Hi
I'll go for a captured SB-2.

The colours look definitely German...late war in fact.
Upper seems to be RLM 81 and RLM 82 with what looks like a shade of buff used late war. Sometimes classed as one of the many shades unofficially grouped under the term RLM 84.

Cheers
Peter

Ooops almost forgot...

Nice site find Joe.

Loads of potential dio references there.

Cheers
Peter

As I have already explained once. This aircraft this is an ex-Czechoslovakian Air Force Tupolev SB converted by the Germans to a target-tug. On the underneath of the fuselage, under the letter ‘G’ can be seen a fairing/bulge unique to this modification.

The camouflage looks distinctly Czech Air Force as in this example here from 1940.



The date is most likely 1940/41 and before the invasion of the Soviet Union. After that date
the rudder, elevators front of the engine cowlings were painted yellow.

Hi Léon!

Yes it's a Bloch 152...

Jean-Luc

I think it's effectively a Bloch 152.

I am positive, the second aircraft IS a MB152, the engine and landing gear are fairly typical !
You made a good guess !
Denis