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Flashback Aviatik-Berg D.1(Lo) series 115
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Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 05:48 PM UTC
On this aircraft is there any different colour markings for it other then the ugly lozenge (sorry guys just don't like the colour ) It's a very interesting aircraft design I was thinking of varnished fuselage and dope fabric . Any suggestions would be most helpful indeed . I'm looking forward on trying out Stephens method on the spoked wheels .

thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 03:38 PM UTC
so on one can help hey ! okay then .......
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Posted: Sunday, August 17, 2008 - 03:40 PM UTC
Well actually, I have some references and an image or two that you may find interesting. There was a series of articles in Cross & Cockade Intl. done by the late dr. Martin O'Connor. These dealt with Autro-Hungarian aircraft and the camouflage colours. I have that same kit and I gathered several references. It may have to wait until tomorrow as I am at work.

1st day back from vacation.
nosewrit
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Posted: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 06:30 AM UTC

Roxter
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 01:33 AM UTC
Terri, I also got the same kit, but with different decals. That is one of my WW1 most favorite a/c - haven't started the model yet. I've got different profiles of the particular a/c - drop me PM with your e-mail.

thegirl
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 02:43 AM UTC
Thanks for the picture Nosewrit . Roxter PM sent .
Bink123
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 02:48 AM UTC
I built the 138 series kit, without the hexagon decals.

I camouflaged it in the autumn leaf scheme, much like the boxtop art. It took me a long time to paint all the small splotches, but it was worth it - very eye-catching.

I used clear decal material for the small round 'windows' in the cockpit instead of the thick plastic ones supplied witht the kit.

A varnished wood fuselage and CDL wings and tail would look great .

Good luck with it.
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 01:53 PM UTC
Hi Terri,
you might find this thread of some interest...

Click Here.

This modeller has been playng with the paint scheme for just this kit.

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 02:55 PM UTC

Quoted Text

". . .This modeller has been playng with the paint scheme for just this kit.
Cheers, Hugh"



He has also made some mistakes so be cautious.
thegirl
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Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 04:42 PM UTC
Thanks for the link Hugh , He has done a good job on the build , something just doesn't look right about it with the colours . I'm leaning more to a dope wing and not sure on the rest yet .

Stephen , thanks for always keep us on our toe's ! I find myself doing more read and researching more and more . Thank you for that !

Richard , thanks for the tip on the windows . I have a punch set that I haven't tried out yet and I have clear stock Thankyou for your reply it is a really tip Ilike , just might have to try that as well .
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 05:35 AM UTC
Roxter , thanks for the pic's you sent . It has giving me some more ideas on how I want to do the markings .

Thanks to all the great guys for helping me out with this
Kitboy
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Posted: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 11:49 PM UTC
Cause I got one on my stash: how's the quality of this kit in general?

Greetings, Nico
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 02:34 AM UTC
Nico , The moldings are good . The rsin engine is not all the great in detail and will need to be replaced if you are into detail . PE are few but are nice .Rubber o-rings are inclued for the tires if you choose to do wire wheels . If you have ever built the older Eduards kit when the first came out they are much the same . just better moldings .
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 12:30 PM UTC
Greetings all;

I will post some info and images a bit later tonight.
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 - 08:18 PM UTC
Greetings all;

Concerning the Aviatik Berg D.I

Profile publications #151 by George Haddow 1967.

Air Enthusiast Twenty-One Aviatik D.I Austria-Hungary's First indigenious Fighter Pp. 63 - 76. Grosz, Haddow & Scheimer.

Cross & Cockade Intl. 1982 multi view 1/48 drawings by S.J. Simpkin. 6 pages.

The profile represents 115.32 as flown by Frank Linke-Crawford when he was KIA 31.7.1918. Over the Frontt Vol. 6/ #2/ Front Cover is the same as the Windsock Datafile #45. Shows his a/c shedding its wing coverings.

Autrian Technic Museum has Av. D.I 101.37. Much of the fuselage is & wings are stripped of any covering for display purposes.

Cross & Cockade intl. Vol. 17 #1/Pp. 29 -35.

Cross & Cockade USA. Vol. 15 #3/Pp. 193 - 200.
Cross & Cockade USA. Vol. 17 #3/P. 286 & 383.
Cross & Cockade USA. Vol. 17 #4/P. 374.
Cross & Cockade USA. Vol. 18 #4/P. 380.

One colour note is that the fuselage bands for Flik 60 is that they were black not red.

Datafile # 45 has hexagonal lozenge colour note on p. 36 There were several camouflage patterns applied to the various Av. D.I aircraft. This one was at the Champlin Fighter Museum and was part of the sale to the the Boeing Museum in Seattle. It is camouflaged in the autumn leaf scheme.

thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, August 28, 2008 - 02:49 AM UTC
Wow , thanks for all of the info on this aircraft . I did some looking on the net but didn't come up with very much . The autumn leaf scheme really catches my eye . I'm guessing the colours used for this are dark yellow , red brown and olive green . Not sure on the green though . How would have this been applied ? Would the yellow be the base coat then the other shades sponged on or something to that effect ?
Kitboy
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Posted: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 - 11:48 PM UTC
Hello,m

I just found quite an extensive article about this aircraft in an Air Enthusiast. If needed I can scan this.

Cheers, nico
thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, September 11, 2008 - 01:56 PM UTC
Nico that would be most helpful . I have found some more info on this aircraft in a old issue of Scale Aviation Modeller . PM sent .
nosewrit
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Posted: Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 06:57 AM UTC
Terri,

Check my "member gallery", I put in some Aviatik profiles for you.....

Matt
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 01:01 PM UTC
Thanks Matt , I saved them for ref's for makings . This really helps me with some ideas for which markings to use .
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Posted: Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 01:35 PM UTC
You can depict spoked wheels too (without covers)!
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, September 13, 2008 - 01:49 PM UTC
I have about four sets to chooces from . Stephen has an execllent post on this subject that I will be trying out . ( never fear the spoked wheel agian ) is the title of it . I think !
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