I am a newbie and been absent from the forum for a few years. I am in the process of finishing a few models I started. This model is my first attempt at Alclad 2 Polished Aluminium. All went well except my first use of the black gloss undercoat which I applied too far away and got a pitted finish. I removed the paint with alcohol and re sprayed with success.

I now have to give the tail end that burnished after burner look and would appreciate some help. I see Alclad have a brass and burnt iron colours. How would you suggest I use those? I was thinking of giving it a coat of the brass and then a light spray of the burnt iron over the top so that the brass shows through. Or maybe the brass over the burnt iron. Or maybe some alternative rings of each.

I love the look of this plane and think it has a real presence. Kit was OK with a few faults and the fine decals tended to break when positioning.

Nice looking finish Sheehan, always thought about getting this kit. Think I might pick it up now.

Hi Laurie,
The metal alloys used in afterburners don't burn because they're engineered to be heat resistant. I don't know which metals are used to make them. They generalky look like dull- gray metal outside and sooty inside. Think of well oxidized aluminium here.

Best wishes,

Gary

Gary thanks for the reply. I am actually referring to the fuselage panels which photos show a discolouration as a result of the heat from the afterburner.
As an example see in this link

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/f-100-super-sabre-flew-most-missions-in-vietnam/

Ah, I understand. That is a pretty cool looking effect, Laurie. Almost looks like copper.

Alclad also do a range called Hot metal which is designed to give that look, I've not used it myself but have heard it's pretty good.

You can see the effect on the Super Sabre at the bottom of their Gallery page.

Laurie,
Welcome back!!

Your F-100 turned out exceptionally well as did the Alcad finish. the rear quarter of the fuselage has always been a trying issue for many modelers to duplicate, as the colors are really the effects of various degrees of heat at any one area. As Luciano suggested, the easiest way to duplicate it is with those Alcad Hot metal colors. If it were me attempting it, I would mask off the entire surrounding area, then apply a coat of Sepia. Then vertical random streaking of Blue, red, and violet, with the blue just mostly near the rear. Just a few lite passes of each with really make a huge difference. After the Alcad dries for a day or so, I would seal it with a very diluted air brushed application of matt as the area has no sheen to it at all.

Joel

Hi Joel, Thanks for the welcome and the kind comments as to my Alclad finish.

Hi Joel and others. I is just too dear for me to buy Alclads and have them shipped just to get that burnt afterburner effect. So I have decided just to paint the tail section with Dark Aluminium. I have ordered a bottle of Alclad Titanium Gold (118) and might just give that a light spray over the top of the dark aluminium. Any thoughts on that. Maybe just do it with the titanium gold

I would experiment on something else with some washes using cheap copper paint mixed with some grey or other colors to get the desired effect. Those pictures in the link make it look like downward strokes should work, applying more between the rivet lines and less on the rivet lines.

Just a thought,

Gary

Hi Gary. Thanks for the input. I have some Humbrol copper and quiet a few grays. I might experiment on a plastic aerosol cap with some effects. Just one question. Can put paint enamel over Alclad. It has cured for about a month now.

The Alclad sites says that you can. However, it recommends you try it on a piece of scrap first. I work primarily with artist acrylics, so I haven't gone over Alclad with enamels, yet.

Good luck,

Gary

Laurie, you could also look at thinned clear red, yellow and blue paints that are available from Tamiya and Humbrol. I've had some success with them in the past all be it in a smaller scale. In essence that's all the Alclad is.

Experiment first though on some scrap.

Thanks guys. I have some of the Tamiya clear blue and red. I do recall seeing burnet metal having a blue tint. How would you apply it. In bands? or just an overall light wash?

You want to apply it in bands, but you do need to use it thinned down and use more than one colour, band of metal, band of red, band of yellow, band of blue and repeat again and again. Look at some real aircraft, I have got somewhere a photo of a F-100 rear end just for this purpose although I think it's stuck on my old computer.

Thanks Littorio
Here is an image that is a bit like what you are saying:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:North_American_F-100D_Super_Sabre_%28MAA%29.jpg
I think I will spray a plastic piece with the Alclad Titanium gold and run some red and blue clear acrylic over and experiment before tackling my model

The alclad is very good but use it in very thin coates as to not overdo it. Blending different colors will help making it realistic

This one is a bit more restrained

Here

Check out airliners.net they have loads of photos, not just airliners.

Rather than order more paint I decided to make do with what I had. I have a Tamiya clear blue which I gave a try. I used the Alclad Titanium Gold to paint the tail section and then I thinned the clear blue and applied it very lightly to to the fuselage. It may not be that accurate but looks ok

Laurie,
Impressive. I would suggest a little more blue streaking, but as it stands now, it's really quite good looking.
Joel