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Trumpeter ME-262 Finished!
JPTRR
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Posted: Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:30 AM UTC
Hello Everyone,

After long last, my Stormbird is finished.Hi Hermon, et al,

See below

Here is a link to the most recent posting of this build: Trumpeter ME-262 Progress.
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Posted: Friday, March 10, 2006 - 06:57 AM UTC
Fred, you gotta be kidding me
All this time I've been waiting to see the finished kit, following your progress reports, and rooting you on and now you say I have to wait longer to see the end result?

Well, ok...........but it better be good. :-)

Hermon
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 11:30 AM UTC
Hi all!

Here are the pics:







It would have been a shame not to see them! The model looks fantastic!
I love the work you did on the transparent engine nacelle. How did you put those parts together without leaving glue smears?

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 01:52 PM UTC
Yes, looks fantastic Fred, got to agree with J-L, nice job on the clear engine nacelle

If this image disapears it'll be because Yahoo don't allow posting off their site.
Mal
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 02:25 PM UTC
Hi Fred

Looking good!

And Mal, yep! - the pic doesn't show...

All the best

Rowan

PS - Fred has a full-build article in preparation to kick things off for our new server.
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 06:48 PM UTC
Hi all!

The Yahoo thing wasn't working so I found another solution... the pictures have been edited and should be viewable now.

Jean-Luc
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 08:50 PM UTC
Wow! Great work Fred, and YES, it was worth the wait.
I've been following your build, so much so that I went out and bought a 262 of my own.......well, it's a Tamiya, and it's 1/48 but it's still a 262 . Every day my ABing gets a little better of I'm hoping to start my 262 sometime pretty soon.
When you get around to finishing your artical on this build is there any chance we could see some close ups? Gun bay, cockpit, engine, etc.....

but I should say thanks for your advice on the Folgore camo scheme. She ain't pretty but she's getting there. Using the acrylic/Future/enamel was the trick. Thanks.

Hermon
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 09:00 PM UTC
Fred,
Looks really good. I can't wait to read the article! I too think the clear engine looks great! I really makes it a very interesting model to look at.
Leon
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:33 PM UTC
Hi Fred.
A fine looking 262 you have their.
The transparent engine covering is very different and really makes your Me stand out.
Looking forward to reading your build article.
Nige
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Posted: Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 10:46 PM UTC
I really like the camo. I know the see thru engine is for disply byt it just messes up the fine camo job.
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 04:24 AM UTC
Hi Fred.
Amaizing work. It looks great. I like very much the camouflage and gral. paint job.
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Posted: Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 06:19 AM UTC
Fred,

Your Stormbird turned out great, it looks fantastic!

Matrixone
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Posted: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 01:02 AM UTC
Hi Alan, Carlos, Hermon, Jean-Luc, Leon, Mal, Matrixone, Nigel, Rowan,

Thank you for your comments. I am sorry about the delay answering you. That shall now be rectified.


Quoted Text

I love the work you did on the transparent engine nacelle. How did you put those parts together without leaving glue smears? Jean-Luc



I didn't! Well, sort of. Trumpeter cast these clear parts with a slight rough texture along the surfaces to be mated, and I don't see them on the styrene parts. My thought is they knew there could be a problem and did this either in hopes that the textured areas would obfuscate any glue blemish, or provide an area to paint.

To show the kit-within-a-kit Jumo 004B I intended to assemble these with either my special UV-cured glue for clear parts, or a white glue. However, the nacelle halves are thick, and are held by pins that fit into mounting holes on the Jumos. The nacelles had to be tightly clamped to fit. I doubt the clear-parts glues would hold. Not only that but the engine and nacelles are heavy. Thus, with trepidation and deep breaths did I take in trembling hand a fine brush, with which I applied Tamiya extra thin glue. The tail cone was, however, attached with Elmer's white glue.


Quoted Text

When you get around to finishing your artical on this build is there any chance we could see some close ups? Gun bay, cockpit, engine, etc.....Hermon



Yes, expect close ups. In fact, there already are several. Go to this URL and you will find about a dozen links to my previous posts. The earlier posts have the cockpit, guns, engines, etc. BTW, I am almost ready to send Merlin the review, so if anyone wants to see photos of a particular area, write me and I'll shoot them.

url=https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/71623&page=1]Trumpeter ME-262 Progress[/url].

Alan, I tend to agree that the clear nacelle does interrupt the continuity. I pondered long whether to do so. Though the pods can be cut open (others modelers have), the whole engine would not be seen, and these Jumos are so nice I had to share one. I figure that if it looks bad I can paint it. easier than I can un paint it. Also, I have the styrene parts if I choose to replace it.

I have a lot of serious distractions at present but when able, will give a brief write up of this aircraft. And the review should be done ASAP, too.
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Posted: Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 09:00 PM UTC
New photos ASAP. Until then:

A light plane accident in Germany in April 1957 claimed the life of the 44 year-old pilot.

What enemy pilots and gunners were unable to achieve in over 1,000 combat sorties happened during a routine acceptance flight by the company test pilot, Heinz Bar.

Oberstletnant Heinz “Pritzl” Bar started his career as a bomber pilot and flying JU-52 transports. “Pritzl” Bar, known as an exceptional shot, flew throughout the war, becoming the world’s eighth-ranking ace with 221 victories who flew more than 1000 missions. He himself was shot down or crash landed several times, once into the English Channel during the Battle of Britain, and once deep behind Russian lines. Roughly half of his kills were against the Western Allies; he downed 65 aircraft over the Mediterranean and North Africa, 22 four-engine bombers and is the second most successful ME-262 ace with 16 jet kills.

He was known to act as the sole escort for his inexperienced pilots, to take off while his airfield was under attack, and fight rear guard actions to protect his pilots when they were low on fuel and ammo. His career was repressed after coming into Reichmarshal Goering’s displeasure. I have not yet read why, though Bar was known as cavalier, as well as to have protected a half-Jewish Jagdflieger, offering his own papers should the Gestapo interrogate the pilot.

His first jet kill was a P-51 on 19 March 1945 after assuming command of III./EJG 2 at Lechfeld Schule, and ending the war with JV-44, Galland’s ME-262 “Squadron of Experten”. Two personal Focke-Wulf 190s were emblazoned a large red 13 and 23, and “Red 13” was his personal ME-262.
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