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Dioramas pt.2 "Albatros D.Va"
JackFlash
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 06:11 AM UTC
Most impressive John!
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Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 01:10 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 02:40 AM UTC
Another pic.
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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 12:50 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 01:09 PM UTC
I refined the burn on the wings a bit by burning closer and not leaving too much overhanging fabric.Although it is not very visible in this pic I added a little green grass stains to the wingtip.
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Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 03:35 PM UTC
I like the effect. Are you going to add some more mud & grass to the inverted engine from the crash?
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:37 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:39 AM UTC
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I like the effect. Are you going to add some more mud & grass to the inverted engine from the crash?
Hey! that sounds like a good idea.
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 01:54 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, December 22, 2008 - 05:41 AM UTC
The wrecked Albatros ,although not quite finished has been about a six month project from concept to almost completion.It has been a very rewarding and fun experience that I would recommend to anyone.I really enjoy the freedom of using mixed media or whatever is at hand to tell my stories.My motto of "buying what you can and building what you must" really satisfies both the scratchbuilding urge and the use of kits.It is a nice compromise of time available and completion of a project in a reasonable time.
The three dioramas that are now almost complete have taken almost ten years to build and I would say that you could triple that time to scratch build it all.Granted that as I get older I don't spend quite as much shop time as I used to but still I am in my shop just about everyday.I am a very lucky man as my hands and eyes are still hangin in there.
Vacations?everyday is a vacation for me and besides my beloved 14 year old Husky( Dolly )won't let me or my wife out of her sight nor will she travel, so going anywhere together is not an option for us at this time.So,all in all,it works for me.
The three dioramas that are now almost complete have taken almost ten years to build and I would say that you could triple that time to scratch build it all.Granted that as I get older I don't spend quite as much shop time as I used to but still I am in my shop just about everyday.I am a very lucky man as my hands and eyes are still hangin in there.
Vacations?everyday is a vacation for me and besides my beloved 14 year old Husky( Dolly )won't let me or my wife out of her sight nor will she travel, so going anywhere together is not an option for us at this time.So,all in all,it works for me.
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:34 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:45 AM UTC
Funny how it goes sometimes,without even thinking it through, I decided to try to make the inspection holes and engine vents in wood and have them look like metal.Well after working a day and a half or so ,carving ,shaping,painting and playing around they still looked bad.Then I thought,if there was a fire burning on the other side of this plywood cowl wouldn't these holes be the first thing to burn ? So I ripped it all off and got out my trusty woodburner and in ten minutes made a few holes.Perfect! wish I had thought of this in the first place.
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 11:50 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, December 29, 2008 - 12:01 PM UTC
How about a wing fairing for the axle?
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Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:32 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:34 AM UTC
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How about a wing fairing for the axle?
You know Stephen,I kind of like this view down into the fuse without too much obstruction.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 05:41 AM UTC
The aft section of the fuselage now rests on the wheel of the U/C, with the other point of contact at the leading edge of the lower wing and horiz stab.The clothes peg joining the 2 halves will be replaced with the elevator and rudder control wires.Although somewhat extreme in its presentation, it leaves no doubt as to what it represents, a hurried and forceful attempt to rescue a pilot who's aircraft is already on fire.Chances are that if I had just broken the fuselage ,at this its weakest point,this aspect of the story may have been lost.The more intense burn area where the elevaltor meets the lower wing also suggests that the fire took hold after the aft section was placed there and not for some other reason like transport of the wreckage.
I know,I know most will say that this will probably all be lost on the average viewer ,but you got to admit that it is a lot of fun creating a little mystery in your work,especially for those who may care to analyze things a little more carefully.
I know,I know most will say that this will probably all be lost on the average viewer ,but you got to admit that it is a lot of fun creating a little mystery in your work,especially for those who may care to analyze things a little more carefully.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:19 AM UTC
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Quoted TextHow about a wing fairing for the axle?
You know Stephen,I kind of like this view down into the fuse without too much obstruction.
Cool!
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Posted: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 12:02 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 05:55 AM UTC
Another pic.
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Posted: Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC
Nails and screws!
This is a boring but necessary job.I used a pin to open holes ,then twisted in a bit of graphite from an HB pencil,then placed a drop of water over that to swell the wood back to level.
The pattern I got from pics of the real thing and Mark Miller's great work.I have noticed that the holes are not always evenly spaced nor exactly in precise rows on surviving aircraft.When factory fresh I do not know.I decided to go with the used look as it fits better into the overall weathered scheme of things.
This is a boring but necessary job.I used a pin to open holes ,then twisted in a bit of graphite from an HB pencil,then placed a drop of water over that to swell the wood back to level.
The pattern I got from pics of the real thing and Mark Miller's great work.I have noticed that the holes are not always evenly spaced nor exactly in precise rows on surviving aircraft.When factory fresh I do not know.I decided to go with the used look as it fits better into the overall weathered scheme of things.
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2009 - 06:55 AM UTC
A New Years personal reflection.
About 10 years ago I decided to drop one passion and start another.
Starting all over again seemed like a big decision at the time.I loved carving decorative birds and even taught it part time to adults for 11 years.While I reached a certain level of expertise and really enjoyed the subject matter I always felt a little uncomfortable filling these artistic shoes.I found that I seemed to be always playing catch-up to the leaders in the field.Following their example and doing knock offs of their ideas.Call it ego or whatever but I wanted to be one of those guys that I so highly admired.
Then I heard of a fellow decorative bird carver who was at the top of the genre and very successful both artistically and money wise.He had years of commissions in front of him but was also dissatisfied and felt that he was stuck in a rut.Then he made the unpopular decision(with his family and fans) to turn away from woodcarving forever and follow a new passion of doing mammals in bronze.He changed his style from very realistic bird carver to a looser style of mammal sculpture.He dropped everything and took a year or so traveling and visiting zoos etc..to get a feel for his subject matter and study their behavior.
He then returned to his studio and started his first bronze of a chimpanzeze which he promptly sold to Jane Goodal the very well known anthropologist and now is even more successful and happier than ever for having followed his dream.
Well,I found that a very inspiring story that helped push me into following my dream.After a near-death medical treatment ten years ago I thought well it is now or never.My passion had always been aviation and flying which was really not that far a step away from the birds themselves.My whole life was deeply involved in one way or another with aviation and it was what I knew best.My path had always been there in front of me all along.It had not always been an easy path to follow and involved a lot of personal pain.
An only survivor of an airplane accident 50 years ago,PTS syndrome and the subsequent loss of my flying career are but a few examples.But my love of aviation and flying never ceased.That is where airplane modeling and storyboard dioramas come in.Much like my fellow bird carver ,turned bronze sculpturer ,I decided to drop the whole thing and try something new.I have now put ten years of concentrated effort into devoping the talents necessary to becoming a storyboard dioramaist and it is only now with my last project the wrecked Albatros have I become really comfortable with the term as it applies to me.It may be the subject matter that I relate to. It could be the finally feeling comfortable in the knowledge that if I really put my mind to it ,I can take a mental 2D image and translate that into 3D model given the availability of the time to do so.I know that I still have loads to learn down the road and art is never really finished but this new year sure has had a positive start for me.
Please forgive me for all this talk about myself but I thought that you guys and gals,my modeling buds, might be interested .Cheers and Happy New Year to all! John.
About 10 years ago I decided to drop one passion and start another.
Starting all over again seemed like a big decision at the time.I loved carving decorative birds and even taught it part time to adults for 11 years.While I reached a certain level of expertise and really enjoyed the subject matter I always felt a little uncomfortable filling these artistic shoes.I found that I seemed to be always playing catch-up to the leaders in the field.Following their example and doing knock offs of their ideas.Call it ego or whatever but I wanted to be one of those guys that I so highly admired.
Then I heard of a fellow decorative bird carver who was at the top of the genre and very successful both artistically and money wise.He had years of commissions in front of him but was also dissatisfied and felt that he was stuck in a rut.Then he made the unpopular decision(with his family and fans) to turn away from woodcarving forever and follow a new passion of doing mammals in bronze.He changed his style from very realistic bird carver to a looser style of mammal sculpture.He dropped everything and took a year or so traveling and visiting zoos etc..to get a feel for his subject matter and study their behavior.
He then returned to his studio and started his first bronze of a chimpanzeze which he promptly sold to Jane Goodal the very well known anthropologist and now is even more successful and happier than ever for having followed his dream.
Well,I found that a very inspiring story that helped push me into following my dream.After a near-death medical treatment ten years ago I thought well it is now or never.My passion had always been aviation and flying which was really not that far a step away from the birds themselves.My whole life was deeply involved in one way or another with aviation and it was what I knew best.My path had always been there in front of me all along.It had not always been an easy path to follow and involved a lot of personal pain.
An only survivor of an airplane accident 50 years ago,PTS syndrome and the subsequent loss of my flying career are but a few examples.But my love of aviation and flying never ceased.That is where airplane modeling and storyboard dioramas come in.Much like my fellow bird carver ,turned bronze sculpturer ,I decided to drop the whole thing and try something new.I have now put ten years of concentrated effort into devoping the talents necessary to becoming a storyboard dioramaist and it is only now with my last project the wrecked Albatros have I become really comfortable with the term as it applies to me.It may be the subject matter that I relate to. It could be the finally feeling comfortable in the knowledge that if I really put my mind to it ,I can take a mental 2D image and translate that into 3D model given the availability of the time to do so.I know that I still have loads to learn down the road and art is never really finished but this new year sure has had a positive start for me.
Please forgive me for all this talk about myself but I thought that you guys and gals,my modeling buds, might be interested .Cheers and Happy New Year to all! John.
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Posted: Friday, January 02, 2009 - 06:26 PM UTC
No apologies or excuses needed. You have the awestruck respect of us all. Model On John!