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Dioramas pt.2 "Albatros D.Va"
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:53 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, January 24, 2009 - 12:58 PM UTC
Awesome ! I like it a lot ! What did you use for the weathering ? It's like you went and took pic's of the really deal !!
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Sunday, January 25, 2009 - 03:48 AM UTC
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Awesome ! I like it a lot ! What did you use for the weathering ? It's like you went and took pic's of the really deal !!
My usual technique for weathering is to use caulk pastels over flat paint.Very simple but effective for old weathered stuff.
dolly15
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 03:36 AM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 04:18 AM UTC
This build will be found in my photobucket in album "Fuel Wagon Albatros"
I have a few left over wheels,tires and springs from another build ,the rest will be scratch.
When I saw the pic of the RFC fuel wagon I just couldn't resist building something similar.I am assuming here that based on the technology of the day wagons like this would be pretty much the same from country to country.This could be a converted farm wagon or something that was built "in the field" by the ground personnel themselves.Anyway that's my story and I am sticking to it!
Well here goes,should be fun.
I have a few left over wheels,tires and springs from another build ,the rest will be scratch.
When I saw the pic of the RFC fuel wagon I just couldn't resist building something similar.I am assuming here that based on the technology of the day wagons like this would be pretty much the same from country to country.This could be a converted farm wagon or something that was built "in the field" by the ground personnel themselves.Anyway that's my story and I am sticking to it!
Well here goes,should be fun.
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 07:33 AM UTC
Speaking for myself. . .I have had a great time so far and now you say the goes the fun part? Wow I am in for the ride. Model on John!
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 12:10 PM UTC
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Posted: Monday, January 26, 2009 - 02:01 PM UTC
I changed my mind!
The white chassis looked a little flimsy so I decided to use another instead.The last pic I took is shown here.If you look on my photobucket under the fuel wagon album you will see in pic 004 the basic chassis glued together,pic 005 the cut down chassis where I shortened the whole thing and then glued it back together again.Pic 006 is a top view of the shortened version.
The white chassis looked a little flimsy so I decided to use another instead.The last pic I took is shown here.If you look on my photobucket under the fuel wagon album you will see in pic 004 the basic chassis glued together,pic 005 the cut down chassis where I shortened the whole thing and then glued it back together again.Pic 006 is a top view of the shortened version.
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 03:52 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 04:04 AM UTC
CAM Pics in photobucket.
For those who may be interested I have opened a new album in my photobucket called CAM, for pictures that I took at the Canada Aviation Museum prior to their latest rearrangement of the displays last summer.
For those who may be interested I have opened a new album in my photobucket called CAM, for pictures that I took at the Canada Aviation Museum prior to their latest rearrangement of the displays last summer.
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Posted: Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 04:14 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, January 30, 2009 - 03:39 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 03:19 AM UTC
dolly15
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Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 04:06 AM UTC
I took some styrene sheet and fitted some end plates to the tank.The pill bottle was sanded down and burnt umber gesso applied .The visible line around one end will be covered with a strap.The tires were worn down with a belt sander and just now need to be weathered sometime in the future.
This could be a horse drawn wagon by adding seats over the front wheels but I think that I will leave it as a trailer-type wagon as shown in the pics.
Does anyone know what that is at the front of the tank that looks like a bunch of wheel cranks welded together?
I added the straps,filler neck,drain pipe and water drain spigot under the tank.
This could be a horse drawn wagon by adding seats over the front wheels but I think that I will leave it as a trailer-type wagon as shown in the pics.
Does anyone know what that is at the front of the tank that looks like a bunch of wheel cranks welded together?
I added the straps,filler neck,drain pipe and water drain spigot under the tank.
67foxtrot
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Posted: Saturday, January 31, 2009 - 08:22 AM UTC
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Does anyone know what that is at the front of the tank that looks like a bunch of wheel cranks welded together?
John,
I seem to remember very early on a type of lug nut iron that had bars in all 3 dimensions. So X, Y, and Z with the Z axis being somewhat shorter. They would have stacked like that too.
Hope this helps. Of course a better view of the photo would help a lot!
Dave
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 03:27 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 04:12 AM UTC
Fuel ,water or oil ?
Until I can find more research material on this as a fuel wagon,I think that I shall just call it a tanker wagon of some sort ,as it could have been used also for oil ,water or other liquid.
The problem I have with it as a fuel wagon is that I don't know how or where a pump and hose would be connected.If used for water gravity feed would be enough provided by the tap at the rear of the tank but if used for fuel a hand operated wobble pump of some kind would have to be installed but where?Then there is the hose to consider, where and how would it be properly stowed?
This same wagon could be built in any scale,horse drawn or whatever.Just find a nice set of wheels,chassis and springs and use your imagination from there.A lot of this ground equipment was actually built this way.A car maker would supply the chassis or a beefed up version thereof, and the rest would be constructed as need be.Even on military fields I have seen a wide variety of stuff that was adapted for "in the field" use.For a semi-scratchbuilder like me that suits me just fine and is one of the big reasons that I do WW1 dioramas, as it gives me lots of room for artistic license.
Until I can find more research material on this as a fuel wagon,I think that I shall just call it a tanker wagon of some sort ,as it could have been used also for oil ,water or other liquid.
The problem I have with it as a fuel wagon is that I don't know how or where a pump and hose would be connected.If used for water gravity feed would be enough provided by the tap at the rear of the tank but if used for fuel a hand operated wobble pump of some kind would have to be installed but where?Then there is the hose to consider, where and how would it be properly stowed?
This same wagon could be built in any scale,horse drawn or whatever.Just find a nice set of wheels,chassis and springs and use your imagination from there.A lot of this ground equipment was actually built this way.A car maker would supply the chassis or a beefed up version thereof, and the rest would be constructed as need be.Even on military fields I have seen a wide variety of stuff that was adapted for "in the field" use.For a semi-scratchbuilder like me that suits me just fine and is one of the big reasons that I do WW1 dioramas, as it gives me lots of room for artistic license.
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Posted: Sunday, February 01, 2009 - 03:29 PM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 05:22 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 03:57 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 03:27 AM UTC
Another wheelbarrow.
I would like to build another wheelbarrow that I will casually prop up against one of the hangars doors ,holding it in the open position.The first one shown here is in the Jenny diorama.
This is a nice little project for those not used to working with wood and would be a nice warm up piece if you would like to do something more complicated like the tanker.
All you require is a few lengths of basswood obtainable from any hobby store especially those that carry RR stuff and a few coffee stir sticks.Most modelers would probably have an old wheel or two laying around from some past project or you could simply use a round piece of wood cut from a dowel.A piece or rod or tube for the axle and that it about it.
As far as tools are concerned I use a Xacto knife with a #18 blade and a small hobby saw and miter for most of my work.Although I do have power saws etc..I find that none are really necessary for this type of model work.(I also have a fancy airbrush that I hardly ever use)My advice to beginners would be to learn to do all this by hand and then if you want to you can buy the fancy stuff later.For sanding just take some various size sticks and dowels and glue some cloth backed, belt sander type sandpaper to them.Buy several grits mostly the finer stuff.
The wood sizes required will depend upon the scale you are building in.In this case you could measure your own wheelbarrow and reduce it to the scale you require.Have someone hold the wheelbarrow and take a pic or use
a scale figure as a guide.Anyway wheelbarrows come in lots of sizes so no need to be too accurate here.Where you have to be careful is with the grip on the handle,don't make it too big.I have sets of scale hands for this.
Water based flat acrylics are recommended for painting and caulk pastels for shading.That is about it.
I would like to build another wheelbarrow that I will casually prop up against one of the hangars doors ,holding it in the open position.The first one shown here is in the Jenny diorama.
This is a nice little project for those not used to working with wood and would be a nice warm up piece if you would like to do something more complicated like the tanker.
All you require is a few lengths of basswood obtainable from any hobby store especially those that carry RR stuff and a few coffee stir sticks.Most modelers would probably have an old wheel or two laying around from some past project or you could simply use a round piece of wood cut from a dowel.A piece or rod or tube for the axle and that it about it.
As far as tools are concerned I use a Xacto knife with a #18 blade and a small hobby saw and miter for most of my work.Although I do have power saws etc..I find that none are really necessary for this type of model work.(I also have a fancy airbrush that I hardly ever use)My advice to beginners would be to learn to do all this by hand and then if you want to you can buy the fancy stuff later.For sanding just take some various size sticks and dowels and glue some cloth backed, belt sander type sandpaper to them.Buy several grits mostly the finer stuff.
The wood sizes required will depend upon the scale you are building in.In this case you could measure your own wheelbarrow and reduce it to the scale you require.Have someone hold the wheelbarrow and take a pic or use
a scale figure as a guide.Anyway wheelbarrows come in lots of sizes so no need to be too accurate here.Where you have to be careful is with the grip on the handle,don't make it too big.I have sets of scale hands for this.
Water based flat acrylics are recommended for painting and caulk pastels for shading.That is about it.
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Posted: Friday, February 06, 2009 - 01:39 PM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 04:46 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 12:34 PM UTC