Early Aviation
Discuss World War I and the early years of aviation thru 1934.
Dioramas pt.2 "Albatros D.Va"
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Posted: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 - 12:43 PM UTC
Diorama Book
Here is a great opportunity to download for free a great book on diorama making.My modeling bud Ken Hamilton wrote this book years ago and it is now out of print.The original book has recently sold on ebay for 100's of bucks.

http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/mercman51/DIO%20Book/

Enjoy! Cheers John.
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 06:59 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 07:06 AM UTC
Great fun ahead!
I am really looking forward to doing my version of this wrecked Albatros trainer .I plan to do mine with more structure showing where the fabric has flashed off in a fire following the crash.
This is a great chance to get real creative! Weathering to the extreme.I will start by building a sled upon which the wreck will rest ( which will also make a convenient stand for building purposes.)
The whole concept here is completely different ,as I will not have to be too concerned with as many highly detailed parts and pieces ,as a lot of this will be in pretty bad shape following the accident Example:the engine.I will be concentrating more upon the overall effect than small detail.Paneling the fuselage using real plywood and then breaking it should be fun .Over-stressing the skin of the tail planes,realistic looking fire damage etc...should keep me out of trouble for awhile.This is the wonderful thing about dioramas,the chance to be creative and learn something new never stops.
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 09:34 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 09:40 AM UTC
This is a shady area of my backyard and is kind of the look I am trying to create,especially the area in the lower R/H of the pic.The dirt is on the wet side and a little muddy.The grass is sparse and well trodden as I imagine a WW1 airfield may have been.
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 09:52 AM UTC
Ya know Stephen that earth does have a lilac shade to it!
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Posted: Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 04:49 PM UTC
Model On John, Model On!
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 02:50 AM UTC
I really like your ground work John . Can't wait to see the final product on this one !
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 03:36 AM UTC
Research pictures needed.
After thinking about it for awhile,I plan to build the fuselage and wings pretty much like I built the others.Because the fuselage is split in two the only thing holding the two halves together are the control wires.Therefore the fuselage will be built initially in one piece,broken and then bend. How much of the plywood covering forward of the cockpit area that I will do will depend on the amount of fire damage that will be shown.The fire would have to be large enough to flash burn the fabric off the wings but not large enough to consume the complete engine area.If the accident occurred at the airfield there would have been an attempt to rescue the pilot ,which would necessitate the use of some type of fire fighting equipment or other to subdue the flames during the rescue .By the look of the wreckage he was killed by blunt force trauma or G forces and not by fire.
The wings will be built as usual with damage added later.
The aft half of the fuselage will require that a lot of the plywood covering be shown .The tails planes would mostly be stress damage.
If anyone has knowledge of any pictures of wood and fabric airplanes ,old or new ,that have suffered this kind of damage ,please advise.
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 10:00 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, July 26, 2008 - 10:09 AM UTC
Now how the hell did he manage to screw that up Harley?
I really don't know.
Must of mixed the BBQ'd soil with the microwaved or something stupid like that!

Oh well ,I will just have to treat it like a chance to get creative.Can't say that I liked it all one color anyway.Rather than drive myself crazy trying to darken one or lighten the other,I think what I will do is create a whole new texture using fine sand to blend one into the other.Should work.(I hope)
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Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 09:11 AM UTC
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Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 09:48 AM UTC
Blending turf.
I dusted some very fine sand on and then came back with the different textures and shades of turf.I kind of like the results but I will make the decision later if I want to extend it or leave the rest as is.
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Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 11:06 AM UTC
So much patience.

This is another big undertaking, and it is progressing well. I loved your other dioramas. It looks like this one is going to be "most excellent".
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 - 03:29 AM UTC

Quoted Text

I really like your ground work John . Can't wait to see the final product on this one !


And it really is a lot of fun to do! If you enjoyed playing in the sandbox as a kid you will love this.
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2008 - 03:31 AM UTC

Quoted Text

So much patience.

This is another big undertaking, and it is progressing well. I loved your other dioramas. It looks like this one is going to be "most excellent".


Havin' fun Carl,just havin' fun!
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:46 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 12:11 PM UTC
This gives you guys an idea how I plan to do the landscaping surrounding the Albatros hangar.
The bottom of the pic is the closest to the edge and the top closest to the hangar.I figure the closer you get to the hangar the most wear and tear there will be on the turf.It will all be pretty close cropped except at the hangar's foundation area where there will be some taller vegetation.Every stone is selected for size and glued down in a random pattern (which is a lot harder than it sounds )to get it just right.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 03:23 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:15 AM UTC
Another pic
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Posted: Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 03:27 AM UTC
Foundation underbrush.
I took a piece of wood wrapped it in waxpaper and used it as a simulated hangar foundation.I had originally built up a small mound a sand all around the hangar perimeter which left a nice little depression which I can now fill with vegetation.
There would naturally be more vegetation around the foundation as it is not as subject to wear and tear.
I used different colors of what they call "underbrush" and then played around with adding turf here and there until it looked more natural.In the pic the glue mix (25/75 )has just been applied so it still looks a little whitish but by this morning it is completely transparent.
The jar of underbrush on the right has had a little yellow ochre sprayed on it using the sieve/airbrush method.
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 05:14 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 07:13 AM UTC
Take a look over on:
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=69

for a couple of Camels and a Jenny build.