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Eduard SPAD XIII Ailerons
tomdraug
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Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 10:07 AM UTC
Hello! I plan to build the SPAD.

I have question - how to model more realistic ailerons? Is it enough to cut them off and sand? I could not find any picture showing the aileron/upper wing attachment. Shold I paint the inside wood or dope?

Also, real pictures show both aileron dropped or maybe I am see wrongly. How to position them?

I am beginner, sorry for stupid questions

Best regards,
Tom
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Posted: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 08:24 PM UTC
Here is a bit of fun from the Early Aviation forum here at Aeroscale and a walkaround by member JPTRR. These are shots of a Spad VII & XIII types.

Spad Walkarounds here.


Though the colours are not entirely accurate.
amegan
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 - 10:29 AM UTC
There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers. Ailerons normally work in opposition left up,right down and the opposite, however this is not invariable. Some early aircraft used aerodynamic lift to position the aileron horizontal and the control wire would pull it down to increase lift on one side. When this type of aircraft is at rest both ailerons droop. In most aircraft, including the SPAD I believe, the ailerons remain horizontal at rest, unless the controls are locked in a particular position (not usual). The elevators, however, may droop at rest in most aircraft unless the controls are locked (usually done in windy conditions when the aircraft is parked outside). The rudder may be located in any position in it's normal travel when the aircraft is at rest. It is rare for the control surfaces to move more than 15 degrees from the datum. Control surfaces on fabric covered aircraft are usually covered with one piece of fabric with the seam at the trailing edge. It woulds be rare to see any wood on the join between the aileron and the wing as the fabric covers the wing completely to weatherproof it. I may have some photos of the Bristol Fighter which may help if you need it
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 - 11:20 AM UTC

Here's on waiting to go flying.
tomdraug
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Posted: Monday, October 27, 2008 - 12:15 PM UTC
Thank you very much - I am in the clear. I will make one aileron dropping a bit, and elevators down.
What a lovely plane!!!

Good luck,
Tom
tomdraug
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Posted: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 08:32 AM UTC
I would love to see the bracket which fixes the aileron to wing, I could not find it in the SPAD Windsock, but probably they were more or less the same in all planes.

My email is [email protected]

Best regards,
Tom
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