:-) Here's my Corsair again. Failed to make the deadline for the group build, I blame my new job for that, sorry guys. However it will be done. I have applied a Pacific weathering coat of very highly thinned medium sea grey, to the tops of the wings, including (if you remember) the already lightend fabric areas and the highest areas of the fuselage. A wash of Warm Grey and Burnt Umber oil paint was next, followed by the matt coat. Unfortuanately the matt coat seems to have negated the affect of the weathering coat. Apart from on the upper wing decals. I am depating wether or not to re-apply the medium sea grey, or to dry brush. This will work, now the matt coat is on :-) I am also plucking up the courage to spray the exhaust and gun stains. I'm pleased with it so far :-) What do you think?
Mal
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 08:50 AM UTC
m1garand
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 08:58 AM UTC
Looking awesome as always. Tempting me to pull out my AU-1.
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 08:59 AM UTC
That is a very nice and clean build. I love the weathering. Nice greys and light blue colors. Can't wait to see it all together.
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HastyP
Regards
HastyP
Bender
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:00 AM UTC
WOW, she looks great, very nice work. ya know thats the problem with jobs, always getting in the way of the important things in life.
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:14 AM UTC
Awsome Paint job.. especially the WAsh!!! Looks like a might purty bird!!!
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:51 AM UTC
I love the tones you have used. very nice blue/greys
Just on a slight tangent, how many models have you got on the go....... ?
Just on a slight tangent, how many models have you got on the go....... ?
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 09:59 AM UTC
Gorgeous. Has that wonderful elusive feel of ruggedness and precision.
ladymodelbuilder
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:12 PM UTC
Looks great Mal !!!! Keep 'em coming.......
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:19 PM UTC
Pardon my french but.................DARN! thats good!!Keep'em coming Mal!!!
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 01:57 PM UTC
(In my best Darth Vader voice) "Impressive... Most impressive..."
Seriously, great job on the Corsair! I've never been much for wingy thingies, but something about an F4U just makes me drool...
Seriously, great job on the Corsair! I've never been much for wingy thingies, but something about an F4U just makes me drool...
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Posted: Monday, June 09, 2003 - 02:08 PM UTC
Very very nice job Clean, great paint job and very well enhaced panel lines.
I like it very much :-) What paints did you use, enamels ? What thinner did you use for the oil washes ? Are you going to finish it with the folded wings ?
Very pro
I like it very much :-) What paints did you use, enamels ? What thinner did you use for the oil washes ? Are you going to finish it with the folded wings ?
Very pro
Posted: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 07:37 AM UTC
:-) sweatydogz
:-) At the moment 25, I think. When I joined Armorama last September, I had 32 on the go. I have completed 15, since the beginning of the year (all posted here, some now in the gallery) and started 8 more :-)
:-) gunnerk19
I was In Southend today and was over flown by, believe it or not, a Spitfire and a Corsair. They were in formation, what a sight and what a sound. Made my day :-)
:-) csch
The paint was Xtracolor, enamel. I used white spirit to thin the wash and yes the wings will be folded
:-) Mal
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Just on a slight tangent, how many models have you got on the go....... ?
:-) At the moment 25, I think. When I joined Armorama last September, I had 32 on the go. I have completed 15, since the beginning of the year (all posted here, some now in the gallery) and started 8 more :-)
:-) gunnerk19
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I've never been much for wingy thingies, but something about an F4U just makes me drool...
I was In Southend today and was over flown by, believe it or not, a Spitfire and a Corsair. They were in formation, what a sight and what a sound. Made my day :-)
:-) csch
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like it very much What paints did you use, enamels ? What thinner did you use for the oil washes ? Are you going to finish it with the folded wings ?
The paint was Xtracolor, enamel. I used white spirit to thin the wash and yes the wings will be folded
:-) Mal
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 05:28 PM UTC
"Marines Dream" What a great job. I bet Captain Ed Olander (USMCR) would be proud himself.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 06:52 PM UTC
Looks like the real thing already.
What is the techniques you use to wash the plane till the compartment lines all clearly and nicely visible? I tried to use oil wash but it became messy .
What is the techniques you use to wash the plane till the compartment lines all clearly and nicely visible? I tried to use oil wash but it became messy .
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Posted: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 - 11:07 PM UTC
LOOKS GREAT HOLDFAST - CONGRATS
ROBERTO
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 12:00 AM UTC
First reactiion - 'WOW'
Nice paint job. Absolutely love the panel lines. That color combination really makes the bird fly.
What color are the tires? They seem a bit 'blue', cant' tell if its the photo or what?
Nice paint job. Absolutely love the panel lines. That color combination really makes the bird fly.
What color are the tires? They seem a bit 'blue', cant' tell if its the photo or what?
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 01:28 AM UTC
Mal, it's absolutely great !
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:34 AM UTC
Mal, great stuff. The panel lines are bold but not overpowering-I like'em. Like the faded paint too.
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 03:49 AM UTC
GOOD JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:00 AM UTC
:-) Shahrid
First, after initial painting is complete, I brush on 1 or 2 coats of Klear (Future) acrylic floor wax. This is the gloss coat for decal application and helps protect the paint from the wash. When I apply the decals I use setting solutions, so the decals conform to the contours and panel lines. (This is important because a wash doesn't look right if it's not included in the panel lines through the decals). When the decals are dry I wash of any traces of setting solution and water marks, then apply another 1 or 2 coats of Klear. This further protects the paint and now the decals as well. If the decals are particularly thick then more coats of Klear can be applied. (Klear is very thin and if use properly wonnt clogg up detail). These coats are also to "loose" the edge of the decal, preventing a build up of the wash around them. This would look unrealistic. The wash I use is made up of white spirit and oil paints. I never keep records of mixes but for similar aircraft i will use, usually, the same combination. This will give at least a subtle difference to similar models. I never use straight black (although I'm contemplating it for black painted planes). I usually include Warm Grey (it has a brownish tint). For Grey painted aircraft I would likely use Warm Grey and Burnt Umber, altered with Black and/or White (as on this Corsair). Not really discernable in the pics,but the underside wash is lighter than the uppersurface and the gaps at control surfaces are darker still. The paint is diluted with white spirit. I will use thin washes and/or "sludge" washes (thickish). A sludge wash is basically painted on and is used, though not exclusively, when panel lines are shallow and the wash rubs out of them. A thin wash allows the coloured thinner to run along the panel lines, by capillary action. So apply the wash and leave it. I couldn't tell you for how long, as that depends on how thick/thin the wash is and wether you want it to streak. (Because of the weathering already applied I didn't want to much streaking). When you come to wipe of the excess a dry cloth might be sufficiant, or you may need to dampen it with white spirit. Depends partly on how long it has been left on. You may also have to re-apply the wash in places, I did on the Corsair. I have read on here about using lighter fuel which could be good. I think it dries quicker? :-)
Scott
:-) They are early colours, Blue Grey and light Grey ( I used Xtracolor Dark Blue Grey and Light Gull Grey). I wanted something different for this early Corsair, Marines Dream fits the bill :-) The tyres are painted with Xtracolor Tyre Black, which is a very good shade. It is not dead matt. I usually drybrush with earth colours, but these also had a much lighter shade dry brushed on. This aircraft opperated, I believe, from a runway formed from crushed coral. This was very abbraisive so there is some heavey, but restrained, weathering to come :-)
Mal
Quoted Text
Looks like the real thing already.
What is the techniques you use to wash the plane till the compartment lines all clearly and nicely visible? I tried to use oil wash but it became messy .
First, after initial painting is complete, I brush on 1 or 2 coats of Klear (Future) acrylic floor wax. This is the gloss coat for decal application and helps protect the paint from the wash. When I apply the decals I use setting solutions, so the decals conform to the contours and panel lines. (This is important because a wash doesn't look right if it's not included in the panel lines through the decals). When the decals are dry I wash of any traces of setting solution and water marks, then apply another 1 or 2 coats of Klear. This further protects the paint and now the decals as well. If the decals are particularly thick then more coats of Klear can be applied. (Klear is very thin and if use properly wonnt clogg up detail). These coats are also to "loose" the edge of the decal, preventing a build up of the wash around them. This would look unrealistic. The wash I use is made up of white spirit and oil paints. I never keep records of mixes but for similar aircraft i will use, usually, the same combination. This will give at least a subtle difference to similar models. I never use straight black (although I'm contemplating it for black painted planes). I usually include Warm Grey (it has a brownish tint). For Grey painted aircraft I would likely use Warm Grey and Burnt Umber, altered with Black and/or White (as on this Corsair). Not really discernable in the pics,but the underside wash is lighter than the uppersurface and the gaps at control surfaces are darker still. The paint is diluted with white spirit. I will use thin washes and/or "sludge" washes (thickish). A sludge wash is basically painted on and is used, though not exclusively, when panel lines are shallow and the wash rubs out of them. A thin wash allows the coloured thinner to run along the panel lines, by capillary action. So apply the wash and leave it. I couldn't tell you for how long, as that depends on how thick/thin the wash is and wether you want it to streak. (Because of the weathering already applied I didn't want to much streaking). When you come to wipe of the excess a dry cloth might be sufficiant, or you may need to dampen it with white spirit. Depends partly on how long it has been left on. You may also have to re-apply the wash in places, I did on the Corsair. I have read on here about using lighter fuel which could be good. I think it dries quicker? :-)
Scott
Quoted Text
First reactiion - 'WOW'
Nice paint job. Absolutely love the panel lines. That color combination really makes the bird fly.
What color are the tires? They seem a bit 'blue', cant' tell if its the photo or what?
:-) They are early colours, Blue Grey and light Grey ( I used Xtracolor Dark Blue Grey and Light Gull Grey). I wanted something different for this early Corsair, Marines Dream fits the bill :-) The tyres are painted with Xtracolor Tyre Black, which is a very good shade. It is not dead matt. I usually drybrush with earth colours, but these also had a much lighter shade dry brushed on. This aircraft opperated, I believe, from a runway formed from crushed coral. This was very abbraisive so there is some heavey, but restrained, weathering to come :-)
Mal
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:29 AM UTC
[quote] :-) Shahrid
First, after initial painting is complete, I brush on 1 or 2 coats of Klear (Future) acrylic floor wax. This is the gloss coat for decal application and helps protect the paint from the wash. When I apply the decals I use setting solutions, so the decals conform to the contours and panel lines. (This is important because a wash doesn't look right if it's not included in the panel lines through the decals). When the decals are dry I wash of any traces of setting solution and water marks, then apply another 1 or 2 coats of Klear. This further protects the paint and now the decals as well. If the decals are particularly thick then more coats of Klear can be applied. (Klear is very thin and if use properly wonnt clogg up detail). These coats are also to "loose" the edge of the decal, preventing a build up of the wash around them. This would look unrealistic. The wash I use is made up of white spirit and oil paints. I never keep records of mixes but for similar aircraft i will use, usually, the same combination. This will give at least a subtle difference to similar models. I never use straight black (although I'm contemplating it for black painted planes). I usually include Warm Grey (it has a brownish tint). For Grey painted aircraft I would likely use Warm Grey and Burnt Umber, altered with Black and/or White (as on this Corsair). Not really discernable in the pics,but the underside wash is lighter than the uppersurface and the gaps at control surfaces are darker still. The paint is diluted with white spirit. I will use thin washes and/or "sludge" washes (thickish). A sludge wash is basically painted on and is used, though not exclusively, when panel lines are shallow and the wash rubs out of them. A thin wash allows the coloured thinner to run along the panel lines, by capillary action. So apply the wash and leave it. I couldn't tell you for how long, as that depends on how thick/thin the wash is and wether you want it to streak. (Because of the weathering already applied I didn't want to much streaking). When you come to wipe of the excess a dry cloth might be sufficiant, or you may need to dampen it with white spirit. Depends partly on how long it has been left on. You may also have to re-apply the wash in places, I did on the Corsair. I have read on here about using lighter fuel which could be good. I think it dries quicker? :-)
Mal - Did I read you right? You hand paint the Future/Klear onto the model? What size brush do you use, and how to do you eliminate brush marks and keep from applying it to thickly? I have rarely used Future as it is difficult to airbrush, but this would make a big difference if it is self-leveling. Do you thin it?
Scott
Quoted Text
Looks like the real thing already.
What is the techniques you use to wash the plane till the compartment lines all clearly and nicely visible? I tried to use oil wash but it became messy .
First, after initial painting is complete, I brush on 1 or 2 coats of Klear (Future) acrylic floor wax. This is the gloss coat for decal application and helps protect the paint from the wash. When I apply the decals I use setting solutions, so the decals conform to the contours and panel lines. (This is important because a wash doesn't look right if it's not included in the panel lines through the decals). When the decals are dry I wash of any traces of setting solution and water marks, then apply another 1 or 2 coats of Klear. This further protects the paint and now the decals as well. If the decals are particularly thick then more coats of Klear can be applied. (Klear is very thin and if use properly wonnt clogg up detail). These coats are also to "loose" the edge of the decal, preventing a build up of the wash around them. This would look unrealistic. The wash I use is made up of white spirit and oil paints. I never keep records of mixes but for similar aircraft i will use, usually, the same combination. This will give at least a subtle difference to similar models. I never use straight black (although I'm contemplating it for black painted planes). I usually include Warm Grey (it has a brownish tint). For Grey painted aircraft I would likely use Warm Grey and Burnt Umber, altered with Black and/or White (as on this Corsair). Not really discernable in the pics,but the underside wash is lighter than the uppersurface and the gaps at control surfaces are darker still. The paint is diluted with white spirit. I will use thin washes and/or "sludge" washes (thickish). A sludge wash is basically painted on and is used, though not exclusively, when panel lines are shallow and the wash rubs out of them. A thin wash allows the coloured thinner to run along the panel lines, by capillary action. So apply the wash and leave it. I couldn't tell you for how long, as that depends on how thick/thin the wash is and wether you want it to streak. (Because of the weathering already applied I didn't want to much streaking). When you come to wipe of the excess a dry cloth might be sufficiant, or you may need to dampen it with white spirit. Depends partly on how long it has been left on. You may also have to re-apply the wash in places, I did on the Corsair. I have read on here about using lighter fuel which could be good. I think it dries quicker? :-)
Mal - Did I read you right? You hand paint the Future/Klear onto the model? What size brush do you use, and how to do you eliminate brush marks and keep from applying it to thickly? I have rarely used Future as it is difficult to airbrush, but this would make a big difference if it is self-leveling. Do you thin it?
Scott
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:36 AM UTC
Hi Mal ..I must say your Corsair is very inspiring to me as I am working on my first aircraft model in way over 25 years and it happens to be a corsair...I hope it will come out 1/2 as well as yours did and I'll be happy...Sure ain,t the same as building armor!!!! ...Thanks for the tips!
Richard
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:38 AM UTC
I do not understand anything about planes but it looks really impressive... Cannot wait to see it completed...
Ciao
Ciao
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 04:41 AM UTC
Excellent Mal! More photos to inspire Gunnie please!
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Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 05:20 AM UTC
:-) Scott
Yep I hand paint Klear, there is an explanation and a picture that shows the brush I use in my article on the Bf 110G-2 here
No I don't thin it. I'm trying to put together an article on Klear/Future, but I'm a bit busy with work at the moment :-)
Richard
If there is anything you would like to know, post here or send me a PM, I will help if I can :-)
Gunnie
I hope to have some more pics early next week :-)
Mal
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Mal - Did I read you right? You hand paint the Future/Klear onto the model? What size brush do you use, and how to do you eliminate brush marks and keep from applying it to thickly? I have rarely used Future as it is difficult to airbrush, but this would make a big difference if it is self-leveling. Do you thin it?
Yep I hand paint Klear, there is an explanation and a picture that shows the brush I use in my article on the Bf 110G-2 here
No I don't thin it. I'm trying to put together an article on Klear/Future, but I'm a bit busy with work at the moment :-)
Richard
Quoted Text
Hi Mal ..I must say your Corsair is very inspiring to me as I am working on my first aircraft model in way over 25 years and it happens to be a corsair...I hope it will come out 1/2 as well as yours did and I'll be happy...Sure ain,t the same as building armor!!!! ...Thanks for the tips!
If there is anything you would like to know, post here or send me a PM, I will help if I can :-)
Gunnie
I hope to have some more pics early next week :-)
Mal