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1:32 scale turnbuckle idea?
wombat58
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Posted: Friday, August 28, 2009 - 11:20 PM UTC
I have been experimenting with turnbuckles and have come up with this one. It is very very close to scale size, is strong and easy to make. The one here is unpainted and the line (cable) is clear mono. What do you think? this is only the prototype so it will be refined a little more.
Des.
Des.
MerlinV
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 01:02 AM UTC
Great! now show us all how you did it!
Cheers,
Hugh
Cheers,
Hugh
guitarlute101
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 02:03 AM UTC
Des,
I agree, very nice. What materials are you using?
Mark
I agree, very nice. What materials are you using?
Mark
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 02:24 AM UTC
I agree with Hugh and Mark , how did you make them and from what ? It looks fantastic Des !
bizarro1
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 03:50 AM UTC
Very fine indeed!
Mike
Mike
JackFlash
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 05:37 AM UTC
It looks like fishing line leader parts.
wombat58
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Posted: Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 02:21 PM UTC
It only takes me about 15 minutes to make each buckle.
I got the brass tube from jbmodel.eu, the copper wire I stripped from multi strand electrical cable.
It's a little bit fiddly but the end result is, I think, convincing. Some paint would make all the difference to the overall look.
Cheers
Des.
Kornbeef
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 05:40 AM UTC
Very convincing yes 
with my fingers tho the carpet monster will be well fed
with my fingers tho the carpet monster will be well fed
Uruk-Hai
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Posted: Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 07:40 AM UTC
WOW!
Great result, good idea and how generous to share it with the rest of us. This Im gonna try for sure with my next 1/32 build. Perhaps even try to scale it down in 1/48?
Thanks
Great result, good idea and how generous to share it with the rest of us. This Im gonna try for sure with my next 1/32 build. Perhaps even try to scale it down in 1/48?
Thanks
Rapa707
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Posted: Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 04:23 PM UTC
Dear Fellow modeler,
I have currently got to that horrible place where I am so worried about rigging I have stopped modeling. I am building the Wingnut wings Bristol fighter and the SE5a. I have even visited the Point Cook RAAF museum to see their SE5a. I now know what a turnbuckle is and what it does but I can't get your pictures to display so I am still uneasy. I have purchased Bob's Buckles from the UK but I feel that they are really too small for this scale and Bob says to use tubing to tuck the loose end of the wire away but nowhere on the real aircraft did I see anything that looked like tubing on the turnbuckles. Is there any way I can see your results?
Yours, Ralph Pattison, Melbourne.
I have currently got to that horrible place where I am so worried about rigging I have stopped modeling. I am building the Wingnut wings Bristol fighter and the SE5a. I have even visited the Point Cook RAAF museum to see their SE5a. I now know what a turnbuckle is and what it does but I can't get your pictures to display so I am still uneasy. I have purchased Bob's Buckles from the UK but I feel that they are really too small for this scale and Bob says to use tubing to tuck the loose end of the wire away but nowhere on the real aircraft did I see anything that looked like tubing on the turnbuckles. Is there any way I can see your results?
Yours, Ralph Pattison, Melbourne.
Plasticat
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Posted: Saturday, September 12, 2009 - 05:13 PM UTC
hmmmm.....all I see are red X's 
wombat58
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 12:42 PM UTC
Sorry guys....I was moving some of my photos around and deleted these by mistake...
Hope you can get some use from my idea..they are very small but it is very simple to do.
Cheers
Des.
Hope you can get some use from my idea..they are very small but it is very simple to do.
Cheers
Des.
Jamo_kiwi
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 01:02 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Dear Fellow modeler,
I have currently got to that horrible place where I am so worried about rigging I have stopped modeling. I am building the Wingnut wings Bristol fighter and the SE5a. I have even visited the Point Cook RAAF museum to see their SE5a. I now know what a turnbuckle is and what it does but I can't get your pictures to display so I am still uneasy. I have purchased Bob's Buckles from the UK but I feel that they are really too small for this scale and Bob says to use tubing to tuck the loose end of the wire away but nowhere on the real aircraft did I see anything that looked like tubing on the turnbuckles. Is there any way I can see your results?
Yours, Ralph Pattison, Melbourne.
Hi Ralph
Another option you could consider is the recently released 1/32 set of rigging stretchers and control horns from Eduard. Some of these appear to be specifically designed for use with RAF streamlined wires.
Happy Modelling
James Fahey
wombat58
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 01:16 PM UTC
Hi James.
Thank you for showing the PE set. These are a very good alternative but in my opinion they end up looking flat (two dimensional).
Thanks again for your input.
Cheers
Des.
Thank you for showing the PE set. These are a very good alternative but in my opinion they end up looking flat (two dimensional).
Thanks again for your input.
Cheers
Des.
JackFlash
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Posted: Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 02:35 PM UTC
Greetings Del,
Just a quick trip back into the ancient days when PE was just being introduced to aviation modelers. Rail road modelers first gave us PE and the "WWI aviation modeling Guru" of us all was ( and by rights still is) the good fellow Harry Woodman defined it. PE was never meant to stand alone. Often it must be thickend and given a round or oval crossection with expoxy ( no super glue back then) or plastic strip in halfrounds. Think of PE as the bare bones of the finished product you want to model.
Just a quick trip back into the ancient days when PE was just being introduced to aviation modelers. Rail road modelers first gave us PE and the "WWI aviation modeling Guru" of us all was ( and by rights still is) the good fellow Harry Woodman defined it. PE was never meant to stand alone. Often it must be thickend and given a round or oval crossection with expoxy ( no super glue back then) or plastic strip in halfrounds. Think of PE as the bare bones of the finished product you want to model.
bill_c
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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 05:37 AM UTC
OK, quick question: where does one come up with 0.13mm wire???
FigureMad
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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
Hi Bill
you can try the windings on old small electric motors, from scalextric cars and a like........... always worth keeping this kind of rubbish, cause it comes in handy.......
Dave
you can try the windings on old small electric motors, from scalextric cars and a like........... always worth keeping this kind of rubbish, cause it comes in handy.......
Dave
Mgunns
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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 08:43 AM UTC
Des: Your turnbuckles are very convincing and I like them. How do you cut the tubing without pinching the opening? Do you use a small saw? Thanks for sharing the information and the tips on "How to".
Mark
Mark
Hatter50
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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:08 PM UTC
Hey Mark,
That was my question also............how to cut that tube without pinching.
Des...........very convincing. Thank you for posting that.
Regards
Steve
That was my question also............how to cut that tube without pinching.
Des...........very convincing. Thank you for posting that.
Regards
Steve
wombat58
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Posted: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:47 PM UTC
Thanks guys for your comments.
The 0.13mm copper wire is stripped from multi-strand electrical cable, I picked the 0.13 because once twisted it fits into the brass tube easily.
I cut the brass tube by rolling it with a sharp N0.11 blade, it cuts very easy and clean with no pinching. After cutting I usually give the ends a light rub with 1000 wet and dry paper (dry).
I'm using these buckles on my WNW Bristol build, I have just completed the tail end rigging where I used 12 turnbuckles, photos are in my WNW GB.
Cheers
Des.
The 0.13mm copper wire is stripped from multi-strand electrical cable, I picked the 0.13 because once twisted it fits into the brass tube easily.
I cut the brass tube by rolling it with a sharp N0.11 blade, it cuts very easy and clean with no pinching. After cutting I usually give the ends a light rub with 1000 wet and dry paper (dry).
I'm using these buckles on my WNW Bristol build, I have just completed the tail end rigging where I used 12 turnbuckles, photos are in my WNW GB.
Cheers
Des.
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