Hi there
Right! The Review's safely published, so it's time to get cracking and build the beauty! I've put my other current projects on the back-burner, which is just as well because... I think I need a bigger workbench!
I'll hopefully have some progress pics to show by end of play today.
All the best
Rowan
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1:32 Tamiya Spitfire Mk.IX
Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:16 PM UTC
Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 10:36 PM UTC
You do it again!!!! this is the first and last warning ....
How is your Late coming along? and the La-5FN? lw46 stuff (whatever you do for that campaign)? Halberstadt?
Use your good mood to finish something!!!! .. pleeeeeezzzz!
Who is in for a 1 year campaign where Rowan has to finish one of his old projects every month?
really Rowan, you should focus a bit more...
nonetheless good luck and much fun with this project.
all the best
Steffen
How is your Late coming along? and the La-5FN? lw46 stuff (whatever you do for that campaign)? Halberstadt?
Use your good mood to finish something!!!! .. pleeeeeezzzz!
Who is in for a 1 year campaign where Rowan has to finish one of his old projects every month?
really Rowan, you should focus a bit more...
nonetheless good luck and much fun with this project.
all the best
Steffen
Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 11:11 PM UTC
Hi Steffen
I've made it perfectly clear that important sample-builds like this will always take precedence over my other projects.
And just to really freak you out, there are most likely a couple more to come soon.
All the best
Rowan
I've made it perfectly clear that important sample-builds like this will always take precedence over my other projects.
And just to really freak you out, there are most likely a couple more to come soon.
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 12:10 AM UTC
Hi again
Construction starts by adding the separate rear fuselage sections. It's pretty obvious that Tamiya have a retractable tail wheel planned at some point (I wonder if that will be moveable, or interchangeable after assembly like the main gear), but trying to produce extra versions from the same basic parts is often a recipe for a poor fit:
That's certainly not the case here! The fit is so precise, the joint is indistinguishable from the surrounding panel lines:
I'm intending to build Tamiya's Spitfire pretty much OOB, and I won't be using any detail sets from other manufacturers. However, I will add some simple details of my own where I find obvious ommissions in the kit. The first will be some cables on the control column, which is otherwise nicely done with a separate grip:
Oddly, the prominent cables have been removed from the preserved Spitfire that Tamiya show in their reference booklet, so perhaps that's why they've missed them.
The seat is nicely done in three parts - but is the first real encounter with ejector pin marks. There are definitely more of these to come...
All the best
Rowan
Construction starts by adding the separate rear fuselage sections. It's pretty obvious that Tamiya have a retractable tail wheel planned at some point (I wonder if that will be moveable, or interchangeable after assembly like the main gear), but trying to produce extra versions from the same basic parts is often a recipe for a poor fit:
That's certainly not the case here! The fit is so precise, the joint is indistinguishable from the surrounding panel lines:
I'm intending to build Tamiya's Spitfire pretty much OOB, and I won't be using any detail sets from other manufacturers. However, I will add some simple details of my own where I find obvious ommissions in the kit. The first will be some cables on the control column, which is otherwise nicely done with a separate grip:
Oddly, the prominent cables have been removed from the preserved Spitfire that Tamiya show in their reference booklet, so perhaps that's why they've missed them.
The seat is nicely done in three parts - but is the first real encounter with ejector pin marks. There are definitely more of these to come...
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 06:36 AM UTC
I'm eagerly watching this Rowan
The fit of that rear section is first class. It is odd that Tamiya missed the cables but I guess if they weren't on the machine that they took those details from I suppose that you can't blame them. Not everyone knows that they exist Anyway that is one area of detail which will look better using wire than moulded in half relief.
I'm very interested as to how the engine panels are held on by magnets, (particularly as you said that Jean-Luc said that it didn't work too well), as we use magnets at work to hold the roof of one of our locos on. That works very well.
No slacking now Rowan, remember that there are 24 hours in a day
The fit of that rear section is first class. It is odd that Tamiya missed the cables but I guess if they weren't on the machine that they took those details from I suppose that you can't blame them. Not everyone knows that they exist Anyway that is one area of detail which will look better using wire than moulded in half relief.
I'm very interested as to how the engine panels are held on by magnets, (particularly as you said that Jean-Luc said that it didn't work too well), as we use magnets at work to hold the roof of one of our locos on. That works very well.
No slacking now Rowan, remember that there are 24 hours in a day
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 06:39 AM UTC
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... remember that there are 24 hours in a day
and then there is also the night
cheers
Steffen
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 07:09 AM UTC
Looks like a great start on quite a stunning kit.
You might have noticed them already, but talking of ejector pin marks and looking at the pic quoted above, I noticed a couple on the control stick. One on the very bottom, another along the middle, on the raised semi-circular ridge.
Also, I might be mistaken, but isn't that a sink mark on the bottom of the grip part?
PS. Btw, have you made any decisions about what markings you're going to do?
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You might have noticed them already, but talking of ejector pin marks and looking at the pic quoted above, I noticed a couple on the control stick. One on the very bottom, another along the middle, on the raised semi-circular ridge.
Also, I might be mistaken, but isn't that a sink mark on the bottom of the grip part?
PS. Btw, have you made any decisions about what markings you're going to do?
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 07:11 AM UTC
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(particularly as you said that Jean-Luc said that it didn't work too well)
Did I said that?
The fit of the various optional parts is really first class in this kit. I've never built anything like this!
Rowan, if you do a photo of every step you will finish your build in 2012... wait that's the end of the world!
Good luck for your build (not that you will need some)...
Jean-Luc
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 07:16 AM UTC
Hi Eetu
Don't worry - I haven't missed them. These ones are taken care of (and the wires will essentially hide them anyway), but there are plenty more of the pesky little things - some raised, some recessed. I'm tinkering away, sanding and filling.
The markings? No firm decision yet, but let's just say Mal and I are discussing what might be fun...
All the best
Rowan
Don't worry - I haven't missed them. These ones are taken care of (and the wires will essentially hide them anyway), but there are plenty more of the pesky little things - some raised, some recessed. I'm tinkering away, sanding and filling.
The markings? No firm decision yet, but let's just say Mal and I are discussing what might be fun...
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 07:27 AM UTC
Hi Jean-Luc
2012? Knowing the speed I normally build, that would be a bit on the optimistic side. But as you say, that's supposed to be when the world's coming to an end, so I'll try to break the habit of a lifetime and work a bit faster!
All the best
Rowan
2012? Knowing the speed I normally build, that would be a bit on the optimistic side. But as you say, that's supposed to be when the world's coming to an end, so I'll try to break the habit of a lifetime and work a bit faster!
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 08:16 AM UTC
Looking good Rowen!
I just started building one last night too! but I had to start with the Merlin of course!
I just started building one last night too! but I had to start with the Merlin of course!
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 08:24 AM UTC
Nice one David!
We'll meet somewhere in the middle!
All the best
Rowan
We'll meet somewhere in the middle!
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 09:44 AM UTC
Hi again
This does risk making the pin marks look worse than they are, but I've filled the ones in the cockpit area with thinned Mr. Surfacer:
To be honest, it's probably overkill; the ones furthest from the cockpit definitely won't be visible, and the curve of the fuselage may well hide some of the others. But it's one of those jobs that you find hard to stop once you've started - and I think it's worth doing to be on the safe side.
All the best
Rowan
This does risk making the pin marks look worse than they are, but I've filled the ones in the cockpit area with thinned Mr. Surfacer:
To be honest, it's probably overkill; the ones furthest from the cockpit definitely won't be visible, and the curve of the fuselage may well hide some of the others. But it's one of those jobs that you find hard to stop once you've started - and I think it's worth doing to be on the safe side.
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 02:04 PM UTC
I'm not sure since I only looked through my sprues but I believe the cockpit knockout holes get covered by other pieces going over them. I may be wrong though.
Owen
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Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 04:43 PM UTC
One of the locals is building one and it looks like it will just fall together. He had the fuselage taped together and there was no fit problem and probably no need for filler either. All of the other pieces seem to fit with little trouble or filler.
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 06:44 PM UTC
Hi all,
The ejector pin marks in red would remain visible in any case. The other still in white will be hidden.
This makes four in each inside of the fuselage, so 8 in total. Let's start the official "Tamiya 1:32 scale Spitfire Mk.IX ejector pin marks to fill" count!
Jean-Luc
The ejector pin marks in red would remain visible in any case. The other still in white will be hidden.
This makes four in each inside of the fuselage, so 8 in total. Let's start the official "Tamiya 1:32 scale Spitfire Mk.IX ejector pin marks to fill" count!
Jean-Luc
Posted: Monday, December 07, 2009 - 09:17 PM UTC
Hi there
I'll bow to Jean-Luc on this one, because he's actually finished the kit.
But to give you an idea of the extent to which the pin marks are visible, here's a few more pieces test-fitted:
I think it's worth doing - after all, Tamiya's cockpit is so tasty, it's bound to get peered into rather a lot. I'll start getting some basic painting done today.
Hi Joe. Definitely true. While the Mr. Surfacer was drying, I quickly tinkered with the wings; the fit at the roots is just amazing - like the tail, the joint looks just like surrounding panel lines.
All the best
Rowan
I'll bow to Jean-Luc on this one, because he's actually finished the kit.
But to give you an idea of the extent to which the pin marks are visible, here's a few more pieces test-fitted:
I think it's worth doing - after all, Tamiya's cockpit is so tasty, it's bound to get peered into rather a lot. I'll start getting some basic painting done today.
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One of the locals is building one and it looks like it will just fall together. He had the fuselage taped together and there was no fit problem and probably no need for filler either. All of the other pieces seem to fit with little trouble or filler.
Hi Joe. Definitely true. While the Mr. Surfacer was drying, I quickly tinkered with the wings; the fit at the roots is just amazing - like the tail, the joint looks just like surrounding panel lines.
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:20 AM UTC
Hi again
Tamiya have depicted the lightening holes in the fuselage frames as shallow holes, which is a perfectly reasonable compromise. However, it's definitely worth taking a minute or two to open up the top few by the cockpit access door, because these will be clearly visible if you pose the door open (and I can't imaginine many people won't want to display the cockpit ):
All the best
Rowan
Tamiya have depicted the lightening holes in the fuselage frames as shallow holes, which is a perfectly reasonable compromise. However, it's definitely worth taking a minute or two to open up the top few by the cockpit access door, because these will be clearly visible if you pose the door open (and I can't imaginine many people won't want to display the cockpit ):
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:43 AM UTC
Keep going on the greatest kit of the year (injection moulding and not limited production)
The fit of the parts looks great!!!
Cheers Nick
The fit of the parts looks great!!!
Cheers Nick
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Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:19 AM UTC
Will be following your build here with much interest to see if you get her done !
The detail looks great so far on the parts . looking forward to more of your progress !
The detail looks great so far on the parts . looking forward to more of your progress !
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Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 07:55 PM UTC
Hi Rowan,
do the same in 1:72 and I will congratuate you... ;P Now I know why you chanaged a house: to accomodate many Tamiya 1:32 Spitfires.
(already submitted this theme)
do the same in 1:72 and I will congratuate you... ;P Now I know why you chanaged a house: to accomodate many Tamiya 1:32 Spitfires.
(already submitted this theme)
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Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:40 PM UTC
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Will be following your build here with much interest to see if you get her done !
..I was having similar thoughts Terri, but with my Brit reserve was too diplomatic to express them..
..have fun Rowan !
Posted: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:27 PM UTC
Hi Terri and Neil
Don't worry - I'm tinkering away steadily at this beauty whenever there's a free moment. The basic colours are on, so I can really get going on the cockpit. I couldn't resist jumping ahead to the propeller and engine last night - they are both beautifully moulded. More to follow soon.
All the best
Rowan
Don't worry - I'm tinkering away steadily at this beauty whenever there's a free moment. The basic colours are on, so I can really get going on the cockpit. I couldn't resist jumping ahead to the propeller and engine last night - they are both beautifully moulded. More to follow soon.
All the best
Rowan
Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 06:38 AM UTC
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Did I said that?
Sorry Jean-Luc I was sure that Rowan mentioned it in a PM, but could have been the age thing
I personally don't mind all the ejector pin marks, if that's what it takes to produce a kit of this quality, and they don't look too serious.
keep it up Rowan, no slacking. I'm going away on the 22nd so you need to be at the painting stage before then and therefor having made up your mind about the markings
Posted: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 07:16 AM UTC
Hi Mal,
Don't worry, you are not senile (yet), in fact I did said that...
Jean-Luc
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Quoted TextDid I said that?
Sorry Jean-Luc I was sure that Rowan mentioned it in a PM, but could have been the age thing
Don't worry, you are not senile (yet), in fact I did said that...
Jean-Luc