Very nice Lar's . I look forward to more of the weathering and high lighting .
Hi Byron , Stephen is very correct , this is the best place for WW 1 aircraft . Lot's of helpful folks and tips on building these wonderful manchines !
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thegirl
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 - 01:55 AM UTC
MerlinV
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Posted: Friday, March 05, 2010 - 12:16 PM UTC
Hi Larsa,
Nice to see someone else building this kit. When it was first released, I purchased 3 straight off and started building... You can see the unfinished fruits of effort one over on the Aerodrome
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/31063-roden-1-48-be2c-progress.html
Unfortunately, life has gotten in the way and I have never managed to finish it, which is ironic, as it would only take an hour or two at best.
I have alsways liked the subtlety (is that spelt right) of your finishes Larsa, and will be following this with interest to the finish.
Cheers,
Hugh
Nice to see someone else building this kit. When it was first released, I purchased 3 straight off and started building... You can see the unfinished fruits of effort one over on the Aerodrome
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/31063-roden-1-48-be2c-progress.html
Unfortunately, life has gotten in the way and I have never managed to finish it, which is ironic, as it would only take an hour or two at best.
I have alsways liked the subtlety (is that spelt right) of your finishes Larsa, and will be following this with interest to the finish.
Cheers,
Hugh
RAGIII
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Posted: Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 03:32 PM UTC
Larsa,
This is really taking shape now! Beautiful work as always!!
RAGIII
This is really taking shape now! Beautiful work as always!!
RAGIII
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:19 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Larsa,
Nice to see someone else building this kit. When it was first released, I purchased 3 straight off and started building... You can see the unfinished fruits of effort one over on the Aerodrome
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/31063-roden-1-48-be2c-progress.html
Unfortunately, life has gotten in the way and I have never managed to finish it, which is ironic, as it would only take an hour or two at best.
I have alsways liked the subtlety (is that spelt right) of your finishes Larsa, and will be following this with interest to the finish.
Cheers,
Hugh
Hi Hugh
Your build is saved in my computer long time ago, and the main reason for starting up this build. And do not ask me if all thoose words are correct spelled, I´m inventing new one´s everday I start up the computer.
Larsa
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 07:20 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Larsa,
This is really taking shape now! Beautiful work as always!!
RAGIII
Hi RAGIII Long time my friend What´s on your bench, always loved your work..
Larsa
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:10 PM UTC
Hi there
Here´s next ”how to” Breaking up the old Humbrol woodpaint. All of you old guys who remember the authentic range always wanted the good AP0104 back.
Fixing the wood grain is not that simple my friend, but almost anyway. I will give you a short series of pics and try to explain what happening.
This is what I use in materials, Oilcolours ( burnt sienna and yellow ochre) White spirits and a flat paintbrush. A tiny bit of household foil to mix up the oils on.
First of all I started with the base color for the area. I always use Humbrol but you can use whatever you fancy. A coat mixed from 74 linen and 62 leather was brushed. This had the night to dry complete. Here´s another tip for you by altering the base color from flat, satin or gloss you can get different effects in your work. The oil color having best grip in the flat base color and the worst grip on a gloss base color. In this scale 48 I use a mix between flat and satin. This gives small and nice grains when brushing out the oil. Working in 32 –scale I often go for the gloss to get the grains a little bit heavier (check my Alba DII/DI builds)
The oils
Mix the oils with just little thinner, too much thinner here and you ending up with a paint that never covers the area. Clean the brush on a bit off paper so you don´t have a load off paint in it.
Now’s the time to start paint the fuselage. Always paint in one direction, I started from the aft aiming forwards. When you painting in one direction and overlapping the strokes you start to get nicely grain from the beginning, if you got too much paint just clean out the brush on a piece of paper again
You can see the wet and glossy oils here, the base color is shining thru nicely and the grain starting to look fine.
Take your time in this moment and remember that oils having a long time to dry up so you can fix and tricks the wet oils for a long time here. Mine is done here. I only used a 000 brush to add some extra details in the grains as I was in the mood.
Time to dry for the oils.
This takes some time and I using the work lamp as a heat source here to speed things up a little. It still takes the night to dry up so when it´s time to get the night of sleep I switch off the lamp. The heat from the lamp helps up a couple of hours.
Here´s next ”how to” Breaking up the old Humbrol woodpaint. All of you old guys who remember the authentic range always wanted the good AP0104 back.
Fixing the wood grain is not that simple my friend, but almost anyway. I will give you a short series of pics and try to explain what happening.
This is what I use in materials, Oilcolours ( burnt sienna and yellow ochre) White spirits and a flat paintbrush. A tiny bit of household foil to mix up the oils on.
First of all I started with the base color for the area. I always use Humbrol but you can use whatever you fancy. A coat mixed from 74 linen and 62 leather was brushed. This had the night to dry complete. Here´s another tip for you by altering the base color from flat, satin or gloss you can get different effects in your work. The oil color having best grip in the flat base color and the worst grip on a gloss base color. In this scale 48 I use a mix between flat and satin. This gives small and nice grains when brushing out the oil. Working in 32 –scale I often go for the gloss to get the grains a little bit heavier (check my Alba DII/DI builds)
The oils
Mix the oils with just little thinner, too much thinner here and you ending up with a paint that never covers the area. Clean the brush on a bit off paper so you don´t have a load off paint in it.
Now’s the time to start paint the fuselage. Always paint in one direction, I started from the aft aiming forwards. When you painting in one direction and overlapping the strokes you start to get nicely grain from the beginning, if you got too much paint just clean out the brush on a piece of paper again
You can see the wet and glossy oils here, the base color is shining thru nicely and the grain starting to look fine.
Take your time in this moment and remember that oils having a long time to dry up so you can fix and tricks the wet oils for a long time here. Mine is done here. I only used a 000 brush to add some extra details in the grains as I was in the mood.
Time to dry for the oils.
This takes some time and I using the work lamp as a heat source here to speed things up a little. It still takes the night to dry up so when it´s time to get the night of sleep I switch off the lamp. The heat from the lamp helps up a couple of hours.
Repainted
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:23 PM UTC
Part II
This dry and total flat surface is what I aimed at. This surface is very fragile to scratches now and the flatness is not what I called nice,
A thin coat off varnish is airbrushed over to protect and seal the grain. You can see how the grain almost gets alive when the clear is applied.
Again this will need some time to dry so the model will sit under the lamp again for three-four hours.
So this is how I do my grains and it´s not a bible for anyone. This technique is common here at the forum but I have the feeling that not all master it. Still there is friend around that taken this to new highs. With this technique it’s more fun to tackle the albatrosses and all the lovely wooden stuff in the hobby
Larsa
This dry and total flat surface is what I aimed at. This surface is very fragile to scratches now and the flatness is not what I called nice,
A thin coat off varnish is airbrushed over to protect and seal the grain. You can see how the grain almost gets alive when the clear is applied.
Again this will need some time to dry so the model will sit under the lamp again for three-four hours.
So this is how I do my grains and it´s not a bible for anyone. This technique is common here at the forum but I have the feeling that not all master it. Still there is friend around that taken this to new highs. With this technique it’s more fun to tackle the albatrosses and all the lovely wooden stuff in the hobby
Larsa
edoardo
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:37 PM UTC
Hi Larsa!
How true! But thank to your tutorial, as well as that of others(such as the very good one by Eric), even I can start to learn something!
Great results, by the way!
Ciao
Edo
p.s.
be careful with the lamp heating, though... I tried it with mine (an halogen one) and ended up with a deformed plane
Quoted Text
I have the feeling that not all master it
How true! But thank to your tutorial, as well as that of others(such as the very good one by Eric), even I can start to learn something!
Great results, by the way!
Ciao
Edo
p.s.
be careful with the lamp heating, though... I tried it with mine (an halogen one) and ended up with a deformed plane
Repainted
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 08:46 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Hi Larsa!
Quoted TextI have the feeling that not all master it
How true! But thank to your tutorial, as well as that of others(such as the very good one by Eric), even I can start to learn something!
Great results, by the way!
Ciao
Edo
p.s.
be careful with the lamp heating, though... I tried it with mine (an halogen one) and ended up with a deformed plane
Hi Edo
The tip is to practise on some junkstuff you have around the table, you´l master this tecnique real quick when made some mistakes. The junkstuff will not ruin your project. When heatdrying the oils never use halogen lampos, they just to HOT, in the pics you could see that I had a big of gap between the lamp and the model.
Larsa
MerlinV
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 10:20 PM UTC
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Hi Hugh
Your build is saved in my computer long time ago, and the main reason for starting up this build.
You flatter me! I am glad to have been an inspiration to others if not my self.
I look forward to seeing the completed builds, both yours and Terri's
Cheers,
Hugh
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Posted: Monday, March 08, 2010 - 10:23 PM UTC
Hi Hugh
And me and Terri( and hopefully all others) want to see you finish up your peice of jewelry
Larsa
And me and Terri( and hopefully all others) want to see you finish up your peice of jewelry
Larsa
thegirl
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 01:25 AM UTC
Excellent step by step on doing the wood Lars . This will aid many modellers in this area .
You are moving along nicely with this build . I just started to do the engine bearer and the rest of the frame work .
Look forward to more progress
Come Hugh , you can do it
You are moving along nicely with this build . I just started to do the engine bearer and the rest of the frame work .
Look forward to more progress
Come Hugh , you can do it
guitarlute101
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Posted: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 02:09 AM UTC
Great work Lars. Sometimes I forget how small the aircraft you're working on is until I see your hands in the picture. I look forward to more of the build, you are very inspiring.
Hugh, I agree with Lars and Terri. Your BE is still one of my all time favorite builds and I still use the pictures as screen savers from time to time. Hope to see you back to modeling soon. You are missed here.
Mark
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Posted: Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:44 AM UTC
How goes the progress Lars ?
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Posted: Friday, April 02, 2010 - 02:00 AM UTC
Hi T Pics comming, just been lazy here in Sweden. We just got the first worming sunny days and I´ll been out iun my Garden again. Pics come soon. I promise
Larsa
Just got some good news, the Pup and Dv5 is weaiting home at Roggas...
Larsa
Just got some good news, the Pup and Dv5 is weaiting home at Roggas...
CaptainA
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Posted: Friday, April 02, 2010 - 09:34 AM UTC
80 degrees F here in southern Indiana. My garden is callin too. I got the first asparagus of the season yesterday.
Nice tutorial on the Oil Painting. I found that using cardboard to mix oils helps drying time. The oils sucks up some of the oil "Juice" After painting I just stick the painted parts in a box, close it up, and leave it alone for a week or two. Drys real nice, no finger prints, and even mor important, no cat hairs.
Nice build so far.
Nice tutorial on the Oil Painting. I found that using cardboard to mix oils helps drying time. The oils sucks up some of the oil "Juice" After painting I just stick the painted parts in a box, close it up, and leave it alone for a week or two. Drys real nice, no finger prints, and even mor important, no cat hairs.
Nice build so far.
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 03:01 AM UTC
How is the project coming Lars ?
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Posted: Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 03:21 AM UTC
Having a fight with a Wingnut Pup and a Nieuport 11 yesterday and just forgot to get me a set off new battery for the camera. Fixing new batterys tomorrow, promise.
Got the decals on and will put the topwing on next time.
Just did something stupid with ordering the new wingnuts,could not leave the boxes alone when they arrived.
Larsa
Got the decals on and will put the topwing on next time.
Just did something stupid with ordering the new wingnuts,could not leave the boxes alone when they arrived.
Larsa